Archive through June 22, 2005

Janny Wurts Chat Area: Arc 3: Alliance of Light: Fugitive Prince, Grand Conspiracy; Peril's Gate & Traitor's Knot: Traitors Knot Discussions: Spoiler Topics: Notes and thoughts while reading the book: Archive through June 22, 2005
   By Wendy Collett on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 09:27 pm: Edit Post

Just reading through the iyat storm section again, and was wondering, Janny, if the inspiration for the scene came from that hurricane you had over there, a few months ago?

Or had you already gone past this section when the hurricane visited?

Cheers,

Wendy


   By Jeffrey L Watson on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 05:14 am: Edit Post

Just a reminder. The requirement for SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER at the top of posts is still required and will be until at least one year after the US edition is published. :-)


   By Janny Wurts on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 10:39 am: Edit Post

Wendy - it was already done and turned in by then. All of the inspiration for the "sailing" scenes in this series were taken from direct blue water experience - delicately mixed with rock hard time doing research, since I did all my offshore time on fore and aft rigs, not square sail.

Harland's reference, Seamanship in the Age of Sail has been a godsend and a bible, for how square rigs actually work under sail....and it goes into great depth and detail for every condition, and lists how each line and spar and knot were handled, and why, and also covers variations for time period.

Without the actual hands on, however, all of that information would have little meaning, and would not give me any sense of "where" such insertion of detail had any meaning whatsoever in the moving drama of an onpage scene.

Hurricanes here - not much drama. Just hunkered down in a DARK house behind hurricane shutters listening to the wind and the weather play wild havoc outside. You get to see more watching TV, and honestly, if I see one more idiot with a mike in front of a trashed gas station kiosk - I will howl. grin.


   By Wendy Collett on Thursday, February 03, 2005 - 03:17 am: Edit Post

Thank you

Wendy


   By Eithne Eiré on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 08:27 am: Edit Post

Hi all need to get this of my chest!!

Absolutely brilliant book again Janny!!!

Right contains S P O I L E R S S P O I L E R S
S P O I L E R S S P O I L E R S

About Arithon and Elaria:
1) Quote from Arithon p411(UK ED)
________________________________________________
"Your talent and mine are that strongly matched"
________________________________________________

now that has led me to believe that Elaria could becomed trained as a master if she were to ask the F7 for training - rem Lysaer never asked! If this happened the sigil emplanted by Morril/Selidie would be cleansed from her aura by HERSELF. Elaria needs to win her own freedom fron her Koranai ties. However I agree with Trys, Sandtiger and Hunter that she just doesn't realise she can ask, the closer we are to something the harder it is to see!

2)C'mon Janny everyone needs a em... well u know...a quick roll in the hay!!! I do agree with Elaria - it was Arithons and hers choice not anyone elses, but i can also see why the intervention happened (you could have heard me screaming all across the Atlantic!!!!!)

I have something else but I cant remember now think its to so with Sulfen E - going to be very interesting if he meets Arithon!

have 2 go - no doubt the 3rd re-read will give me some something more to rant on about

later guys

Keep up the good work Janny

Eithne


   By Konran on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 04:04 pm: Edit Post

Something else that came to mind, and yes, I am Asking (hehe)... I can't remember ever seeing this anywhere, so if this is a repeat question, dun hurt me...

But: Are Dakar and Verrain the only two spellbinders trained/created/whatever you call it by the Fellowship? If they are, how come there aren't more? And if they aren't, what happened to the others? Is there a certain criteria you have to meet to be Fellowship-trained and there just aren't that many people out there who fit the bill? And who instructed Verrain? (We all know who got the pleasure of "disciplining" Dakar lol...)


   By Hannah on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 05:16 pm: Edit Post

Luhaine was the one who trained Verrain. That's all I know...

Hannah


   By Blue on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 12:22 am: Edit Post

It might just be that training Verrain and Dakar was enough of a time consumer on the remaining F7 members.

Verrain, it seems, has been a spellbinder for over 500 years, so when Luhaine trained him, it might have been while he still had a body.

Asandir, as we know, is embodied, but Dakar is not as advanced as Verrain due to his being a scatterbrain.

Dari s'Ahelas was trained by Sethvir, and "she argued the entire time I tutored her," according to Sethvir's revelation in CotM. Her descendants, including Mak s'Ahelas, Talera s'Ahelas-s'Ilessid, and Arithon were all trained at Rauven on Dacen Elur.

It might be something wherein the Sorcerer has to be embodied or "whole" as Traithe does not have any records of apprentices. Davien seems to be too mysterious/prickly for anyone else, and, of course, Ciladis is still MIA.

OOOOOHHH... one thing I never stopped to think about before. Verrain and Dakar are both "mere" spellbinders, but they have longevity, and were born before the uprising that overthrew the High Kings. What about Dari? Did she make it all the way up to spellbinder, and if so, does she still live at Rauven, in secret, guiding her descendants?


   By neilw on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 06:43 am: Edit Post

I think Janny wrote once on the board that there have been other spell-binders i.e. F7 aprentices. Dead now though I guess(?)

Longevity: a curious thing. Would a spell-binder become tired of life sooner or later or would their mission continue until the F7 are freed? What's in their contract?

Do the F7 yearn for death after 10000 years of service?


   By Auna on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 12:15 pm: Edit Post

I assume the spellbinders have free will choice, so if they get tired of their duty, they could stop.

I get the feeling that the drake binding is more chafing to the F7 than living so long. Now they live with the constant fear that humans will break the compact and they will have to purge them.

Potential Spoiler -


Who says Davien doesn't have an 'apprentice' ... he sure seems to be guiding Arithon ;)