I was so looking forward to the thought of a concluding volume and then bang! Another middle one...
OK, yes, it will doubtless be very good but conclusion books tend to have more weight for me and, let's see, Alliance of Light has been being told since 1997, AND there's two more parts to go?
As you may gather, I'm wondering if we are going to ever reach the end, bittersweet though such things are, an ending does a story no end of good.
Yes, 5 parts of varying lengths, yes, a definite plan - not reckoning with pubishers' antics that is! Yes, these two facts are enough to keep me going! Just don't want the story resembling certain others that'll remain nameless.
On a different note, what was wrong with the old covers? Seems a shame to throw away such illustrations!
If Janny ever 'throws those illustrations away', I'll be digging through her trash to retrieve 'em.
Trys, you would be fighting with me for those throwaway illustrations.
I bet Janny and Don could make a small fortune selling tickets to the fights their garbage would inspire.
"It's the main event! In this corner, weighing in at [whatever] with talons newly sharpened, fighting fit, the Gryphon Trystane! In this corner, weighing in at [whatever] with a wicked case of PMS and no chocolate in sight, the mean, the unscrupulous, Blue Tornado! Let the fur and feathers begin to fly!!"
Heheh! Very true Trys! And since you have the geographical advantage, I wouldn't be able to beat you to them!
my money goes to the tornado - no matter how dragon-clawed and grave-jawed a gryphon may be - it is no match for a well-constructed case of PMS ..... c'arn blue!!!
All right -- it's official.
I have started into the material of what will be Stormed Fortress Chapter Set I, recutting the cloth so it reads as an opening set.
No hints are possible - since it opens seconds after the finale of Traitor's Knot, NOTHING I said would be anything other than a royal mess of a spoiler.
This is going to be MUCH better than trying to cram way way too much into an ending of an already fat book.
As for discarded artwork, my mom's oldest sister, Rita, was a professional artist, who spent most of her working life working as an illustrator for a large department store chain (Sears? Macy's? I forget....she passed away when I was finishing High School.) (Like Janny, she was also married to an artist!)
She could have made a fortune doing portraits for the rich and famous in New York. I've seen a portrait she did for someone she knew, and it's magnificent. Instead, she literally worried herself sick when forced to retire at age 65. She developed cancer, and passed away in less than 6 months. She'd been widowed many years earlier, and was afraid she would not be able to support herself.
My mom has a head and shoulders oil portrait Rita did of a model while still in art school. It's hanging in a place of honour, over the mantle in the living room.
My mom rescued that painting from the trash, over her sister's protests!
I guess if there's a message here for artists/writers, it's BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!
Go Janny! Go Janny!
Yay Janny! ^_^ We'll be eagerly looking forward to this next book. I hope you'll put plenty of Paravian in this one. It's such a pretty language and if you weren't so busy writing and painting I'd be begging for lessons. *grin* (you're speaking to the geek who tried to teach herself Quenya...)
Konran, I'm with you! One of these fine days, when I have some money in my pocket, and can attend a con, especially if it is one Janny is due to appear at, I'd like to ask her (after I give the poor woman writer's cramp autographing all my Wurts novels) if she would mind reciting some Paravian poetry, or even some of Arithon's songs in Paravian. I don't know if there would ever be anything quite like hearing the language from the creator herself.
Years ago, I found a tape in a comic shop called Dragon Songs, which was a compilation of many of the songs Anne McCaffrey had in her Dragonriders of Pern and Harper Hall of Pern series. Anne sang, and performed many of the instrumental pieces herself. Awesome does not begin to describe it! I wonder if we can find someone to make Janny a lyranthe and persuade her to do a recording like Ms. McCaffrey did...
Online sound bytes perhaps, of all the Paravian phrases to date? *grin* A proununciation guide for us poor struggling fans? (I saw the language puzzle a while back. I was sad I missed that.)
Status: I have been in the process of re-tooling the existing draft of this volume so the pacing is an "opening" - not a crashing rush to climactic explosion.
I am truly glad for the chance - the book will be SO much more balanced! as a result. A large p art of the reason things stopped, back in February, was the fact I couldn't address these same angles, and the finish was not "shaping" to its right conclusion.
Yes, I am taking a leisurely pace. The spring's schedule was brutal, and WFC a major landmark, getting that whole show on the road, not to mention ourselves. And three hurricanes worth of preparation made for a rather interesting summer.
We have gorgeous cool weather, and I want to ride horses in the afternoons, something I haven't done in far t oo long!
Time now to pick up the strings of a few things I promised people, that have been left dangling, and also to renovate the last bit of this house that's still in the original shape that it came in - Dead Ugly. We'll be redesigning the masterbedro om and bath, long long overdue.
Then we have a retaining wall and the final landscaping around the studio addition to finish....something I hope can be done before the wet season comes next summer.
I will be engineering a new Paravian contest - and ther e IS already a pronounciation guide included in the glossary. If you want soundbytes, attend one of my readings. The next one will probably be at Fruitville Library in Sarasota County, this winter.
There's a new, short interview on the Voyager, HarperCol lins' site, for the UK releases. I looked it up - and found the type to be electric green, and virtually unreadable. If anyone goes there, let me know if the thing was legible....I'd be curious.?
I got it normal black on white text. Easy to read (if that's the same interview...you end it with your christmas wish list (and btw do all reading fans have the same reaction in a book store?!)).
The text display in that green only in old version of Netscape. I suspect non-standard HTML tags but don't know for sure. I do know the HTML document was created by using a Microsoft tool, so anything is possible.
Thanks for the cross check, Cheryl and Trys. It's a relief to know, since I put a bit of care into those answers!
Your bias is showing young Jeffrey..
Me, biased.... against the great and powerful company behind the curtain!? Never!! <grin>
Living with a computer geek, I constantly hear how bad Windoze is. Not that I don't agree...but there are times when it gets bad.
There are two reasons my computer is a windows machine. 1) Quicken only runs reliably on a windows machine. 2) Most of the games I want to play won't run under a UNIX derivative. The other 5 computers my husband uses are all FreeBSD, Sun or Linux OSs.
And I absolutely hate IE and believe any site using which can only be seen with IE doesn't deserve my business.
Ah, where are we....(grin)
Adjusting the pacing of this volume's draft to kick off the close of an arc....it's taking a bit to "reset" the stage for this, as its pacing is Way too hot for an opening.
The fortunate part - this Had to Happen. Way Too much was going to get pinched, if I'd had to zip this up as the "end" of TK.
For anybody prematurely worried about the Next two arc's length - they are MUCH shorter. As Mistwraith and Ships were shorter arcs.
So I am "stepping in" the material that needed to be there all along....and its the sort of damnfool decision making (juggling with plot thread progression) that makes me nuts.
However: the lovely run of feedback (ALL of it) is helping me to see where the concepts need a bit more tweak for depth of definition so the explosive finale detonates with just the right impact. THANKS GUYS! All of your comments were time well spent.
I will post page counts, later....the "sequential" at this point is all messed up - as the old pages are being pulled apart with hand notes and postits, and the reformatting of the chapter breaks isn't set yet....the penalty of last year's decision to split coming due....though well familiar with this process from GC and PG, doesn't make it any easier.
When this book comes out, ONE DAY - I will tell y'all what you'd have missed IF I had gone on to write it from the "other perspective" - and truth to tell, it WASN'T moving for me for a darned telling reason.
Ah well - back to plot hatching....I have a few more Paravia sketches, too, once Don gets the operating system on his computer up again, (he's updating the lot) and the scanner gets the refit it needs to mesh with the new gearing. Ghod, I hate gadget retooling....straight imagination is SO much more elegant!
(Should it be Kharadmon vs the rockhead s'Brydion, this pitch? Hmmmm.....)
Kharadmon vs. s'Brydion??? Wha..? Bu..? Ack! You are a mischevious tease!!! :^) You must drive Don to distraction at Christmas! Then again, we wouldn't have you any other way!
I knew I should not have clicked on this thread. I've managed to not read any of the TK threads. Now this. WHY???
Can we really be that close to the end?
Rurack, you look as though you are suffering from MY problem with the series, I want to peek at the end, but I don't WANT it to end.
Knowing Janny, however, even if she WERE to allow someone to peek at the very last triplet (?) we'd still be speculating like mad, because we wouldn't know WHAT happened.
I peeked at the end of GC before I read it, and the triplet about the "New Koriani Prime Matriarch" made ABSOLUTELY no sense until I read GC through all the way.
Is Don still swearing at the scanner, or has it decided to capitulate?
I guess if the s'Brydion were going to simply pull Alestron apart, they would have agreed with Arithon in TK and just got on with it..
I think I would prefer Luhaine boring the s'Brydion's into action with the type of long winded lecture Kharadmon is forever teasing him about.
Perhaps Kharadmon can get one of the s'Brydion's to inhale a lot of tienelle, have their spirit leave the body and get them to guard Athera against the wraith invasion from Marak.. that would be a fun battle
::Snarf:: ::Sputter:: ::Chokes on tea::
What a vision, Hunter.
I thought you might like it..
After all, if the s'Brydions are clan lineage, then surely they have some dormant talent which could be awakened like Jieret and have them go off and do stuff.. like fight Mistwraith.. that would seem like a fun sport to a s'Brydion..
Blue most of the time I manage to keep my impulses in check. But oh it is so hard some times. I have given up reading the index of most fantasy books. Some writers put anything in there, not Janny though. I remember the first time I picked up Eye of the world. That first paragraph had me reading the whole index and I new alot of the stuff that was going on in the book simply because of it. Never again. I have decided to let the writers take me on their journey. Never even read the last chapter of The Dark tower series. Maybe in a couple of years I'll read it and be "satisfied" but who knows
Rurack, I think the reason why you can't glean major plot points out of Janny's indexes is that Janny is a consummate tease... just like the cute little psychotic Russian Blue who sits by my chair, howls to get my attention, and then runs like someone just ignited his jets when I reach down to pet him.
When working on my little opus, I keep the index handy, but with something extra - I have a section right underneath with the physical description of the person/place/thing in question, and then an Author's Privilege note, such as whether that person lives or dies, who s/he marries, and the like. I have it set up so that when I finally get around to finishing it, I can simply erase the Author's Privilege notes, with the major plot points so that a reader would just be looking at a generalized description of the entry.
I still remember the time I was most angry with a book cover, and that was on Blue Adept, the second book of Piers Anthony's wonderful Apprentice Adept series. The cover, by Rowena Morill, was gorgeous, except that it GAVE AWAY A MAJOR PLOT POINT!!! I wanted to find out WHO had commissioned it without double checking, and smack that person into the following decade. Not Ms. Morill however, since, as mentioned before, the picture was gorgeous.
Oh great, Blue! Now I need to go dig out my Adept series books and re-checke out the cover... Oh well, it will distract me from waiting on MM's issue of TK...
I will resist temptation...
I will resist temptation...
Must not read spoilers... :^)
I'm rather looking forward to this particular book; I'm almost done on Traitor's Knot and wildly speculating as to how things are going to conclude.
I have always wondered though - and correct me if I'm wrong - in the start of Curse of the Mistwraith, doesn't the prologue/opening speak as though the books are a re-telling of the story, rather than the history version written by the victor?
Much as I love seeing the 'Good Guys' lose; it would be gutwrenching in this series...
COTM starts off in the 5th age. And is real Janny like in how little details she actually gives. Just enough for you to reread it and nash your teeth in frustration.
It says things like "to belive the canno of the religion of the Time Lysear was divinity incarnate and Arithon was the root of all evil" or some such. Then it went on to say something like people pulled up records to the contrary. And a group went back and peiced together the events of the time through some magical means.
Just a thought people.... Is resisting temptation a socially redeeming value.... or maybe a character virtue?? because I almost never resist temptation!! [grinning wolfishly at ya]
Something to make you pause...
In the 1950's an attempt was made to characterize what a criminal was (rather than simply what they did). The conclusion drawn was that a criminal wanted what everybody else wanted (nice home, possessions, holidays etc etc) but they wouldn't wait until they could afford them - whereas **ordinary** law abiding folk were prepared to wait, making resisting temptation the sole difference between a criminal and everyone else.
Now however NOBODY is prepared to wait (buy now pay later??)
Does that make everybody a criminal???
John, forgive me for being predictable, but... if reading Janny's books as quickly as I can get my greedy mitts on them is criminal, you can lock me up and throw away the key, 'cause I will continue to be unrepentant. >:-D
Further to my last message...
The conclusion drawn by the researchers was that people today are constantly seeking the next "fix" of excitement with no thought to savouring what they already had.
With that in mind I would say that if you read Janny's books, with their need for reading, re-reading and re-re-reading in order to grasp every nuance then you're definitely NOT in that category!!!
John (On his way to re-re-read COTM to find the ref to Enithen Tuer!)
John, that reminds me of the LotR movies. In some chats and message boards, people were complaining about how there was the year long delay between films, if the films were already done. (Aside from the fact that they weren't done, only mostly filmed.) But I liked the year in between to really get a chance to enjoy the movie indepth and become thoroughly familiar with it before moving on to the next one.
I've never done an official "re-read" of Janny's books, but pretty much every day I pick up one of them and read a scene or three. That's my version of a re-read. I'm pretty sure I've covered them all a few times.
Last night I was flipping through CotM as well. It'd been a while. I had to go back and enjoy the chapter where the Fellowship desceneds on Etarra. Great stuff! "Over my dead body." "If need be."
Got to agree with you Hannah, that descent upon Etarra by the Fellowship was brilliantly staged.
Ah and John, I think they did some more research in to that later if I remember rightly and the definition was changed slightly. I'd have to go searching through my text books to find it but, I have a feeling they did.
"It's the fool with the torch, who picks fights with the wind." --Sethvir, Warden of Althain.
stray line from today's adjustments in draft, main chapter two, Stormed Fortress; there follows the scene with s'Brydion and Kharadmon.
Oooh, you're teasing us. X3
<3 Kharadmon... that pairing's going to be something to see
So, what am I doing posting here at 3 in the morning?
Well, one cannot read Janny's beautifully complex prose when tired, so I had to quit for the night...
Yesss, darlings, I have the preciousss in hand!
We had an informal little gathering at the Sandtiger's today, a bunch of us who met through Julie Czerneda's newsgroup, and I suddenly remembered. "Hey, Sandtiger, you've got the UK edition of Traitor's Knot, don't you?"
"Sure," came the reply "want to borrow it?"
"Jeez, Sandtiger, do you REALLY need to ask??"
Just colour me happy, as I toddle off to bed...
Arrgh. And I just realized I posted this in the wrong bloody thread! If the honourable webmaster is able to move it to a more suitable spot, I will be most greatful! :-)
Gee, does that mean you need to change your screen name from JayJay to Smeagol or Gollum, precious?
[quote]Oooh, you're teasing us. X3[/quote]
She's been taking lessons from an expert.
And it's called taunting!
AAAWWRRROOOO!!!! For the teaser snip...
Glad I could be of service. It really is worth the wait. (But that I could shorten it by a bit for you - I am glad.)
Besides, that makes it one less book to pack for the move...and a guarantee that it won't get lost, ruined, or maimed by the packing.
Sandtiger ::Who won't be around more than peeking in between packing boxes until after March 1st.::
You just better hope that I don't lose, ruin or maim it during MY move, dear Sandtiger.
Yea, I know, you trust me....
[FYI, Sandtiger and I are both moving at the end of this month...not to the same place, though!]
And I desperately need to pack.
I spent most of today trying to get a (Insert word of your choice)virus off my computer. 9 HOURS. I couldn't run my virus scan, couldn't do an online update...nothing. I finally thought to go into safe mode and delete all files modified yesterday. (Couldn't do it in regular mode.)
I think I got it. I'm still trailing bits, but at least everything is working again. I just need to get someone to check my computer to make sure I don't have any harmful bits left that could affect either me or those I email.
I've never had a virus before - nor do I ever want another.
And when I throw my next newsgroup gathering? (As I did yesterday) I'm not letting *anyone* near my computer. If my computer is going to cause me difficulty...I'd rather it be my fault.
Have had this trouble, I feel for you. I stopped using the more popular antivirus programs such as Nortons, and started using AVG (free program) instead. Every time got a virus, Nortons wouldn't run, but AVG would, and caught viruses Nortons never did. AVG is very worthwhile, check it out.
In addition to this, I have also gone to Trend Micro website online, and had a virus check run online from their website of my computer when all else failed.
Hope this helps,
Jana, reminds me of the time I picked up a worm, that would terminate my internet access so I couldn't download the removal tool, or update my virus protection (McAfee).
It was one time I was VERY glad to have my laptop. Its OS was immune to the worm, so I was able to download the needed program and transfer it to the infected desktop. What a nightmare, though!
Did you turn off the 'restore' function before rebooting? You have to do that in XP, or run the risk of getting the deleted files back again!
I don't know what the Restore function is...I managed to get rid of the file, but it's still in the start up because I get odd things saying it can't run. And my IE still doesn't work the way it should.
I am hoping to find a computer guru willing to take a look at some point soon. I'm leary of using the computer for anything but basic stuff until it gets looked at.
Sandtiger ::Who didn't need this right now::
Blasted thing isn't gone.
Sandtiger :: Off to try Wendy's recommended software! THANKS!!!::
These things get right inside, and unless you know exactly what you're doing, you generally have to get some computer whizz to help you. Try googling for the name of the virus and directions as to how to get rid of it completely. I always find that while Norton might tell you you've got a virus, it doesn't really do a huge amount about it. So many times we've found the infected files, but for some reason, Norton says it can't quarantine them...
In the norton virus notification window, click on the name of the virus and the norton webpage will come up with all the info on the virus, what it does and how to get rid of it and everything.
I tried that, but it didn't do me much good.
But, I've now invested in a new computer (With virus software and extended warranty) to go along with my new writing desk, bed, and bookcase.
I sort of went a bit overboard this weekend while I moved - figured I'd get everything I needed all at once so I wouldn't have to worry about it again. It just means I'll be eating kraft dinner for a few months.
But, for anyone who knows how much I wanted a writing area - I now have one!!!! My computer should be hooked up completely in the next few days. Hopefully I'll be ready to roll on the weekend, when my cable and high-speed are connected.
In the meantime, I barely have access to the net and none to my hotmail.
Back to the main topic... when will Stormed Fortress be coming out approximately? Anytime before next year?
There is no release date on the map at all for this title - nor a publisher, yet. It's in submission....while, meantime, I work on the primary draft. When there is a glimmer of news, I will post it.
There is no release date on the map at all for this title - nor a publisher, yet. It's in submission....
Even with HarperCollins UK?
Mark - that's where it's in submission...I just got word back this morning concerning the (long ago) query on the status of Peril's Gate and stock in Australia - it apparently was out of print briefly - but went back to press, which certainly indicates the support is there.
Just there is no way, at this stage, to promise a release date - asking before I have any answers just frustrates me, too.
There will ALWAYS be an announcement when I have reliable information, or changes to information that was posted, before due to circumstances within a publisher.
Thanks, Mark, for all you are doing to support this series in your bookshop - and thanks to every reader who's said good things, here, in other chats, and to friends. It makes a difference.
If any others want to help by turning their frustration into positive action, post a review on Amazon - the new release of the first three books has no recent comment on it, and TK's reviews are a little thin. Believe it or not, these things count!
If any series readers haven't tried out To Ride Hell's Chasm, that might scratch the itch a bit, or at least fill in the wait time.
I did a 'Fave Rave' review of TRHC in our Nexus newsletter a couple of months ago emphasizing that newcomers to your work who are daunted by the size of WoLaS should try this book first. If they like the writing style then they'll love WoLaS.
I'll look into posting reviews on the re-covered books too - gives me a good excuse to re-read them (not that I need it!) :-D
For any potential WoLaS reader, I would also urge them to read Master of Whitestorm.. an excellent book with some more of the fantastical elements but a key character study..
Yeah, but (personally) I think Janny's writing (stylistically) in WoLaS is closer to TRHC than MW...
Thanks for the update that there's no date yet. I just asked in case I missed something... I've been head deep in work lately and have been lax in reading this site. In fact, I'm at work on this nice sunny Saturday.
Kate Elliot's CROWN OF STARS is scratching my itch. If i finish before the new one comes out ...well i'll just have to go back to the start and read from MISTWRAITH
I would also recommend the "Cycle of Fire", which was my first introduction to Janny's work. (IIRC, it's available in an omnibus collection, and well worth the price.)
The US edition is a trade paperback omnibus edition.
Now that the printer's proofs are turned in for TK, I get to return to Stormed Fortress's draft...
what's in store....aside from a HEAP of stuff you will NOT expect - stuff that would just pop the speculation off the charts...
- (chortle) -
Sidir's just knocked my socks off. He had a journey from point A to point B, and he just accomplished it with a twist in his own personal style - my mouth fell open so hard that my jaw hit the rug, and I'm still groping about picking up the bounced teeth.
You're gonna love this....BOOK!
You're a mean one, Janny! ;)
Now Janny, You teased us with Traitor's Knot and most of us went ballistic when it didn't show up and here you are again teasing with Stormed Fortress. There will be rioting in the streets if you don't stop all that teasing!!!!LOL [grinning at ya]