Happy New Year!
The status of this book - I am a chunk of the way into Chapter Set two.
It's off to an interesting start. Get a nice, soft carpet, or a cushy place to read. The jaw droppers won't hurt so much....
Oh you wicked, wicked temptress! ;^) Have you no pity for those who may be still recovering from excess libations of the New Year??
Great news sis! Especially on this bleary morning here at work on the Left Coast... *sniff* *sniff* hmmm... someone is heating up bacon... must go investigate..
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you...
It is so good to know that SF's sequel is started.
And SF? I am almost finished (I don't know about the rest of you, but I find it hard to get decent reading time. Fifteen minutes here and there just doesn't cut it for this book. You need at least an hour, because so much happens in just a few pages). Best book of the series, and that is really saying something, although I probably feel this way because so many loose ends are tied up. SF just has amazing developments that none of us predicted.
Thanks Janny. You are too good to us.
Yes, she is good to us, but also WICKED, in teasing us so.
The mind boggles - WHAT is going to happen to our angst-ridden Masterbard NEXT?!?
I am expecting to have to put corks in my ears so that when my mind is BLOWN, it won't make such a mess.
Blue, ye crack me up! That cork visual is going to go in-and-out all day and create much giggles.
Also, I agree Clansman - SF was the best book by far, but I'm putting that down to the sating of thirst for Janny-writings.
I've been having withdrawels since I snapped up TK and left a barren expanse of Time in between publications...
Now that it's been well over a month since I've finished SF, I'm considering re-joining JannAnon, for those who need that regular dose of Jannyness or go crazy!
Chapter Set two Janny? Is a Chapter "Set" the three sub-chapters that collectively make a 'Chapter'?
Chapter Set? Seems to me that would be a set of chapters, i.e. as in a few chapters.
You'd better let us know, Janny, as we have precious little to hang on to until Arc IV, vol. 1 is in our hands. We're an impatient lot, when it comes to waiting for your books. Though they are worth the wait, it is precisely this worth that makes the wait so hard.
How about a title? I imagine that comes more to the end of the creative process, after you have seen how the book has developed, but I can't help but ask.
Ah, to put you out of your yelping misery (author rubbing hands over the howls of anticipation part)
A Chapter Set consists of a Main chapter with a roman numeral head, two sub chapters, and three one liners...A chapter set's worth of material can run from 60 to 75 pages, manuscript.
When my son (who is 3) does not like something that I or my wife do or say to him, he replies with (quite disrespectfully) "You're mean!"
Janny, with all due respect: You're mean!
I guess I was hoping for too much when I asked for a title.
I am still daring to hope.
I shall join my Hope in with Clansman and try to use the Force to influence her that she wants to give us the title. Then again this may not be the title we are looking for.
Im off to finish work and start reading book two of the new starwars set. everyone be forwarned for many Starwars probverbs in the months ahead.
Janny one question out of context?
Which do you think is harder cause I cant decide.
Keeping track of all the minute details of your great series which is as big as some starwars series already all by yourself. (impressive most impressive)
Having over 15 or more different authers writing for the Expanded Universe of starwars and yet some how keeping the little details exact to the story line and so far I have not caught a goof up. I am not counting the books predating the Original Triolgy. I had to draw the line somewhere in the story.
My last question which you may know the answer cause i cant find one. How in the name of all that is in the force can so many different authors keep track of such a large story and not goof each other up at some point?
I don't think they do keep track, I think they goof up all the time. I bet there are whole forums devoted to people arguing over which stories should be considered canon and which shouldn't.
It's criminal though that we have to put up with midichlorians. How I wish that was the invention of some non-canonical author.
Having read most of the major books the main story is intact and no errors. The only thing I know for sure is that in order to write a starwars novel you are required to read all other books. I had thought GL the mighty may have been the final editor for this but i don't think he would have that amount of time to devote.
New addition to chat so hopefully not too embarrassing an entrance. Janny, loved SF and cannot wait for next encounters. Have not gotten into a series quite as much as this one before and am always elated at finishing one and having so much more information on plot but also disappointed that the wait until next release is at least twelve months. (Australia always receives their copies after UK)... Anyway thankyou and cannot wait
Pene - Harper Collins Australia released Stormed Fortress a few days before the HC UK release. We (deserving Aust/Kiwi readers) get the UK version (same cover, spelling, etc.) as Janny's contract with HC covers UK, Aust and NZ. So when Arc IV, Book I (aka The Wars of Light and Shadow: Volume IX) hits the shelves in Old Blighty, we out here in the colonies may already have our copies..
FYI - If you check release dates, you'll also see that WoLaS books are usually minimum two years apart due to the complexity of the writing (done by Janny), cover and internal artwork (also done by Janny - UK FP cover was done by Don) and the production scheduling of the publishing company (after they get the final manuscript and schedule it amongst all their other books to be published) which all impact on when a book might be released to us dear readers.
Welcome here Pene Lawrence - always cool to see a new face here! And a new friend of the series, even if I don't have a chance of writing as fast as you readers eat them up.
One does one's best - !
Another new addition to the chat but not a new reader!!! I have just finished a second reading of SF...I loved it, thank you Janny.
After the first reading I went back and re-read 'Peril's Gate' and 'Traitor's Knot'...*sheepish grin* .....well there were things I couldn't remember and as I am on hols I have some time to read.
I'm looking forward to tracking the next Arc in this intriguing work....ciao Sue
Hi Susan Brown - welcome here!
Next Arc - it will be a bit more explosive than intriguing, I expect....I'll BET you saw more in the earlier volumes, post Stormed Fortress...
Well, I started reading with Mistwraith in 1996 (or whenever it was published), but fell off the bandwagon a few years ago, but now i'm back (not that i've ever posted here before). To my surprise and amazement I have traitors knot and stormed fortress to read now. I have a question though (and apologies if this is up in a FAQ somewhere) but all the books seem to be out of print in the us now, as far as new copies, so does janny currently not have a us publisher, is in the progress of getting a new deal, or what? Maybe someone could fill me in. I don't know about this whole five arc 500 year span though... characters i like keep dying...maybe janny and GRR could do a collaboration. j/k
anyways nice to meet you all.
carl - welcome here -
You will need to be careful, that you don't spoil your read if you haven't gotten Traitor's Knot and Stormed Fortress. These books rip forward, converging plot threads and winding up what was seeded in the prior volumes of the Alliance of Light.
There will be characters you love who survive, I promise - ;) - absolutely, mine choose where they end up, as you will see when you get there.
I have no publisher in the USA at the moment. When the timing is right, I will seek a new deal, definitely. Note: when the timing is right. At this moment, the entire series is available from HarperCollins in the UK, Australia, and New Zealand.
Passed the 100 page mark, today....the first hurdle, since, I sometimes feel, the first stage is the hardest.
Thats good news Janny. Thank you for the update. I often check here to see where you are - finally finished SF and was just stunned - planning to read again because of all that went on and my haste to read - plus I glean new information everytime I read one of your books.
I couldn't wait for a US publishing deal, so I bought it from Amazon UK. :P
So many new faces - wow - welcome here!
BE CAREFUL, if you haven't read Stormed Fortress yet - !!! You do not want to stumble over spoilers in the chat...it will certainly pull some of the surprises out of your experience, if you get wind of developments beforehand.
The start of Arc IV is going to be the same....I will try to quit bouncing in my seat with both hands pasted over my mouth. (bounce!)
Nice to see the entire series of Alliance of Light series available this past weekend in CapeTown's 'Exclusive Books' stores. Best way to get new readers.
Oh, that is great news! Motley, thanks for the report.
Hi everyone, long-time lurker, first time poster.
Motley, which branch of Exclusive Books was this? I have been perusing this book chain for years trying to get hold of Curse of the Mistwraith, to no avail...are only Alliance of Light books on offer?
Funnily enough, Proteus2, I had the very same problem and now I have 3 copies of Curse of the Mistwraith. Send me your address and I'll mail you one. Goddness knows I don't need all three. Janny has her very own book case in my house. Feel free to email me email@example.com And if you are looking for books you can't find ebay is really good I get most of my hard to find or no longer in print books there.
proteus2 - welcome here!
The entire series has just been repackaged - your local seller should be able to order them without difficulty. (and so should play.com)
If this is not the case, please inquire and see what they say. I can run down the problem if a stitch has been dropped in the distribution, but not if I don't know what the problem is.
Play.com were all out of stock as of yesterday. *nods* Amazon.co.uk had most of the older editions in, but the new editions they only had Traitor's Knt and Stormed Fortress.
Hi all, thanks for the responses.
Brittani, thanks very much for your offer, but I think I'd prefer buying my own copy. Support the author and all that. Besides, unless you are on the African continent, it might cost quite a lot...I appreciate the selfless offer regardless.
Janny, thank you for your books, I enjoy them immensely. As motley mentioned, it's not particularly difficult to get hold of Alliance of Light books in South Africa, but I haven't seen Curse of the Mistwraith in ANY bookstore in SA for years, and Ships/Warhost are also scarce. I don't know precisely what can be done about this, but thought you might appreciate the heads up...
Stocking at bookstores comes as a direct result of reader demand. As reader demand rises (sales) both the publisher and the book seller get motivated to push harder.
When the books are not obviously on the shelves, then word of mouth by excited readers has to create the orders to bring the book in.
Trust me, a rise in orders gets notice.
Welcome here Brittani and Zorana Lewis - I placed an inquiry as to the out of stock status at Play.com - but I am working from the publisher's end. If Play.com is out of books, is there a way to let them know they've missed some orders? (I am not familiar with the venue)
Now back to topic - Status - I have a target date for finish. Now, if I could only find a sliver of a piece of this book that wouldn't blow some surprises....till I do, sigh, No Previews.
(brightens) anybody going to Capricon? They've scheduled a Reading.....
"Now back to topic - Status - I have a target date for finish."
As thorough as you are, Janny, I am fairly certain that the "target date for finish" was not left out on purpose.
So, what is it???? Hmmmm?? Or do you choose not to disclose it to us, your patient and faithful fans?!?!?!? <sniff>
::hands Clansman a tissue::
I do not DARE breathe a word about projected target dates. This is not cruelty.
Until said target date is met, and until production is started, and the book's release date is settled as in, printed in the catalog, anything can change. Schedules get rearranged all the time. Sometimes publishers do this because the author is late. Sometimes they do this because, for internal reasons, schedules get rearranged.
I've had too many "instances" where a projected date got changed - and not due to a lag in my turn-in time - and people overreacted and mistook this for "final pub date."
To avoid confusion, misinformation, angry e mails, disappointed readers, and the hitches this causes on word of mouth and the rumor mill, I have learned not to put down a thing until the timing of a release is FINAL.
The venting by frustrated readers nailed my hide, when for one reason or another, schedules got changed. Even if not my choice, or my fault. So - to keep things settled, don't expect me to put any dates on the map.
There are, even NOW, too many forums out there lacking the correct information on Stormed Fortress - too many posts 'presuming' the book is never coming out, not available at all, or making sweeping statements as if the posters KNEW inside information that, absolutely, they don't. I have YET to see a post that's correct, with regard to what is actually happening. Too often, presumptions are made, based on the habits of other authors.
I find that maddening. I don't write too well, while fuming, see.... :P
So to keep smooth sailing on the creative schedule, the RIGHT information is always on this forum. Changes and announcements are always instant. Projections will stay projections, until the information is hardwired and finalized. That way, I hope, there's some way to combat the rumor mill and keep readers correctly informed.
Hopefully that way, too, some of the accuracy trickles out.
that's all very well, but the fact is: this is art. An author is not a sausage machine on call...
It's just other people Doing Their Thing... still...
I don't expect Janny to have the stuff written when I want it... though I'm sure the demand is very supportive, in some ways. I expect her to have the stuff written when she's ready. And if that's never (right now, it's fine, and will be) it's her life.
Those who freak: get a life.
Hmmm... I do feel quite strongly about this.
Let me just add, in case anyone freaks *grin* that I take pretty much all of the postings here to be supportive freaking.
It's the other freaking lot that I'm talking about... sheesh...
I hope my freaking is supportive. I wouldn't ever want to be considered one of those "other" freaks (GASP!)
For the record, I don't think that I was freaking. I was being purposefully pathetic. Begging, even. Certainly not anything like "freaking".
I was, and am, curious, as to when the next novel might be ready. I fully expected the answer that I got, but it was worth the shot!
Clansman - no worries.
Nobody on THIS forum is at fault.
It's on other forums (all too many in fact!) where I saw misinformation posted by "those behaving as if they had inside information, or authority to know" - that's what kicked my goat.
That, and the complaints, about this being "another endless series" - an erroneous concept which, I can quit pounding my desktop and hope that Stormed Fortress emphatically puts to rout!
I hate to be "lumped" with "them" - whoever "them" happens to be at the moment.
But the shining moment, and a bow to your caring - we know of ONE forum that's precisely accurate, up to date, and shiny cool.
And the next book - well - (rubs hands in anticipation) - guess I should get about the crazymaking business of titling the manuscript, soon....
I'm sure if you could find the "magic formula" to crank out books on a daily basis, you would probably not do it, Janny.
If the previous volumes are anything to go by, you're one of those "fussy" types who does not release her work until it is up to her high, nit picking standards of excellence.
That said, I'm willing to wait for quality.
When my brother BillyBob gets fussy at a restaurant because something is taking too long - I remind him, when the food comes up, piping hot and just right, to put a sock in it, because it was worth the wait to have the food cooked just right. I have also told him that I could ask the manager to bring out the package of frozen meat (or whatever) and drop that on a plate for him if he was in that much of a hurry.
So Janny, I don't want a piece of frozen meat clanking down on my plate. I would much rather wait a little, and have a fully cooked and perfectly spiced meal placed in front of me.
Does the above even remotely make sense?
It makes perfect sense, and do you know what's really ironic? Those that do all the moaning about the wait, will buy the book eagerly when it's released, skim through it in a hour flat and then start moaning for the next volume without actually reading the one that is there, for them to savour and enjoy.
Like a friend of mine, the new Gail Martin book came out in our Waterstones recently, and he'd been doing nothing but whine since October last year about how long he had to wait, so as soon as he saw the new book, he pounced on it, and then skimmed through it in the hour wait we had for our train, shoved it in his bag once he'd 'finished' and started whining that she should hurry up and write another book. You'll be happy to know I picked up my handy copy of 'The Song of Roland' and promptly hit him with it - he might have some respect for the effort put in by authors knocked into his silly little head that way. Or not, but *shrugs* there's only so much abuse I can level upon my books.
*hangs her head* I'll totally cop to freaking in this forum about Traitor's Knot's many delays. In my own defense, however, I was freaking over problems with the publisher, and not with Janny.
At any rate, I don't want to know when the next book will come out, even a guess. It'll just make me MORE impatient.
I too must admitt that I nearly lost my mind when I realized I would have to wait till SF was shipped all the way across the Atlantic Ocean and then the greater part of the USA before I could read it.
I agree with Lyssabits that I don't want to know when the next book will be released until we get close to the actual date. I don't want to have to spend too much time hopping up and down eagerly.
Ditto, Blue. Ditto.
Yay! We're going to have a title.
Now. Should we be planning raids on these other forums to correct the incorrect information??? Slam some moaners and non-enthusiastic whiners to the mat? Hoist them on their own petards (did I spell that right?) and expose their winjing for all to see.
Anyone up for it?
mememe ill do it clans. as for not wanting a date well then don't read it cause I like to know so I can count down to the time I can rush out and skim it in a hour. Now I read fast when i want to roughly 60 pages or more an hour when i been reading a lot but anyone who can read jannys books in an hours get my props cause dam thats fast. Of all the authors I read she has the thickest books around. And what is wrong with an endless series I miss new books on my old favorits. thats one reason why I like the Star Wars Expanded Universe it keeps going.
Anybody attending Capricon in Chicago?
Well, I have a reading on Saturday....a few lucky people may get to VOTE on what they want to hear, and - well - you'll have to be there, because the attendees Will be sworn to secrecy... ;)
Janny, when's your next reading in Australia?
*looks pointedly at people with the power to bring her across the vast gap between our countries*
I vote for Australia - Janny it seems you have quite a number of fans in Australia judgng by the number who seem to post here - and certainly the local bookstores stock you well. Come in our summer and go sailing on Sydney Harbour.
If she's in Australia over summer, then surely sailing from Sydney to Hobart would be an interesting way to spend some time?
Good to know the series is still happening - Stormed Fortress was amazing! I started having Arithon dreams again the other night, so I figured it was time to check and see what was going on with the next book :-)
Oooh, I love the sound of the new arc title and the first volume. It sounds... swashbuckling but also musical. *grin*
Initiate. As there are always more than one of the title (lots of traitors in traitor's knot...) let's see: Arithon is quite an advanced initiate into the Mysteries. Elaira is also an initiate into the Koriani, and Ath's brotherhood. Will Dakar get more training... lots of possible avenues...
Between writing This Book, some wierd and wonderful facts....
Anyone from the US south - you do NOT need to use poison to eliminate fire ant nests....plain old oatmeal does for em! Apparently the invasive species cannot digest it.
Ah, my (all but stingless) bare feet are looking forward to being SO happy, and the very prospect of summer gardening without gajillions of pustulant bites - a routine irritation, because I DETEST poisons!!!
I feel the same way about using poisons, even against the nasty fire ants.
I've been using some nice-smelling stuff with orange oil (among other things) from the organic nursery, but it seems to just move them around the yard, if it moves them at all. I'll definitely try the oatmeal tomorrow on the colony by my rosebush!
Thanks for the tip, Janny! I had not ever heard about using oatmeal.
Janny, I have found effective ant repellent - cinnamon! Apparently, it messes up their pheromone trials; in essence, causing them to get lost!
I have had problems with ants invading my kitties' food bowl, so I just sprinkled a bit of cinnamon around the bowl, and in the place between the wall and the floorboards where the pests were coming out.
Well, at least it works on the varieties of ants we have here in Minnesota. I am not too sure if this solution will work for fire ants as we do not have them here! Thank goodness! (It gets too cold for 'em!)
Nutmeg works too. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks to Janny for frequent updates and not getting grumpy when we clamor for more and demand release dates.
Methinks this thread has gotten a wee bit off-topic. And it is Janny's fault!
No fire ants in Canada, especially with the worst winter that we have had in two decades! It is the end of February, and we should be starting to thaw out a little bit. Not so. -20 Celsius, close to 0 degrees for the US Fahrenheit crew. For those of you in FLA, who could not possibly understand what this feels like, -20 Celsius techno-speak for FRIGGIN' DARN COLD!!! Even for a Canadian!
Perhaps we should move this discussion to a thread entitled "Fire Ants: The War of Spices and Herbs"
Oh. I forgot the orange and lemon zest!
Hey Clansman, how's THIS for an annotated thermometer?
Nuclear blast nominal yield.
Saharans comment that the sand is a little stingy today.
Okies notice it is warm out.
Death Valley residents put on deodorant.
Arizona children amuse themselves by dropping eggs on sidewalk and giggle while they fry.
Miami residents put on sunglasses.
Texans turn on the fan.
Too hot to think.
Texans and Californians undo top button.
Antarctica is gone, polar bears extinct.
Australians notice the sun is out.
All Europeans and Canadians spontaneously combust.
Arabians awaken and thaw.
New Yorkers burst open street fire hydrants.
Texans drink coffee.
British start sacrificing goats to make the sun go away.
Californians finally turn off the heaters.
Death Valley residents awaken.
Scandinavians go underground.
Canadians turn on the air conditioning full blast.
Arizona residents stop shivering.
Alaskans declare record heatwave.
Californians rise from hibernation.
Hawaiians declare a two-blanket night.
Californians put on sweaters (if they can find one).
Miami residents turn on the heat.
Vermont residents go to outdoor concerts.
You can see your breath.
Californians shiver uncontrollably.
Minnesotans go swimming.
Italian cars don't start.
You plan your vacation to Australia.
Ohio water freezes.
Californians weep pitiably.
Minnesotans eat ice cream.
Canadians go swimming.
Politicians begin to talk about the homeless.
New York City water freezes.
Miami residents plan vacation further South.
French cars don't start.
Cat insists on sleeping in your bed with you.
You need jumper cables to get the car going.
American cars don't start.
Alaskans put on T-shirts.
German cars don't start.
Eyes freeze shut when you blink.
You can cut your breath and use it to build an igloo.
Arkansans stick tongue on metal objects.
Miami residents cease to exist.
Cat insists on sleeping in pajamas with you.
Politicians actually do something about the homeless.
Minnesotans shovel snow off roof.
Japanese cars don't start.
Too cold to think.
You need jumper cables to get the driver going.
You plan a two week hot bath.
Swedish cars don't start.
Minnesotans button top button.
Canadians put on sweaters.
Your cat helps you plan your trip South.
Congressional hot air freezes.
Alaskans close the bathroom window.
Hell freezes over.
Polar bears move South.
Viking Fans order hot cocoa at the game.
Lawyers put their hands in their own pockets.
I REALLY liked that last one!!!lol
As Janny would say: <snort>!
Here's what has been going the rounds in our state.
It's winter in Iowa and the gentle breezes blow
Seventy miles an hour
At twenty-five below.
Oh, how I love Iowa
when the snow's up to your butt
You take a breath of winter
And your nose gets frozen shut.
Yes, the weather here is wonderful
So I guess I'll hang around
I could never leave Iowa
'Cause I'm frozen to the ground!!
What's sad is that all the snow we were supposed to get in Minnesota landed in Iowa and Wisconsin instead!!!
You're certainly welcome to my share. Just bring your truck and a shovel. *G* I'm going broke hiring it done.
No thanks!!! What we are lacking in snow, we have made up for with freezing temperatures!!! I have no idea why I haven't moved away from here!!!
Come to sunny Australia and bring some of the snow with you - we're still in drought here.
I liked the annotated thermometer - my cat decided it was cold enough to sleep under the covers with me the other night - it only got to about 19Celcius during the day - back to unseasonal 29C today ((85+ fahrenheit for the Americans)
I have often thought that if the producers of Survivor really wanted to have the show live up to its name, they'd put a group of their candidates in a place like Alert or Ellesmere Island, instead of some warm Polynesian paradise. To be kind, they would do it in what passes for summer in the far north of Canada, otherwise they would not survive. Try to survive when you have to find food AND keep warm.
They won't though, because there wouldn't be enough skin for their viewers.
I would gladly send some snow to you all down in Oz. Drought is really awful, and we in eastern Canada cannot really appreciate what it is like. Our people on the Canadian prairies know, though.
We had a day of spring-like weather, but are supposed to get about 20 cm of snow and freezing rain tonight. UGH. Wet snow is the worst. It is much harder to shovel than the nice cold dry snow, which is fluffy, and light. My dog likes the snow, but she loves to swim (she's a labrador). We're both ready for spring.
However, it does allow one to enjoy the sheer pleasure of a hot toddy after coming in from the cold (providing you shovel in the evening and not the morning!).
I'd like to send snow to all the drought stricken areas. Southern U.S. is in that position also. Our last weekend produced a meltdown that has the rivers out of their banks and then Sunday night it froze back down and gave us about 4" of white stuff. Nice wet stuff that is not only hard to shovel but makes driving even more tricky.
For those of us in Iowa, there should be light at the end of the tunnel. April is only a few weeks away. Maybe Mother Nature will give us a break by then. The girl's basketball tournament is over and we're midway through the boys so the temptation to drown us in snow should be about over. *G*
Great thermometer, Blue!
Add one more, though:
Capitol Hill frozen solid. Politicians homeless!
If Janny gets back to Australia I'm booking her in NOW for Galaxy Bookshop!
In keeping with the off-track character of this thread, I wish to announce the following:
What a dumping that was! 53 centimetres (about 21 inches for the metric-impaired). I must have shoveled all weekend.
I would have been quite happy if the Gulf of Mexico had kept that nice moisture down there for you Floridians to enjoy. The snow piles are massive in Ontario, Quebec, NY State, Vermont, NH, Pennsylvania.
Give us your heat. You take our snow.
Actually only a bit of Pennsylvania saw that snow. We here in Southwestern PA got a smattering which is mostly gone now. But Ohio got hammered!!
I stand corrected. Good thing, too. My wife and kids and I are headed to Lancaster PA for a few days off.
We are going to see "Daniel and the Lion's Den" on March 14.
See you all next weekend.
Wow...looks like we dodged the bullet again here in Minnesota!!! Usually, we get buried in snow several times a winter, but not this year. It is all around us just not here...sorry Clansman!!!
Yeah, all we've had in the Kingdom of the United (aka UK) is rain.........rain.........wind.........rain...
Do you see a trend here? *grin*
Today we even had something new - rain and wind at the same time! Woot!
*ahem* Yeah. Sarcasm abound. I haven't seen a right ol' snow (as in a few feet of the white stuff) since I was......ooo.......8, which is just over 13 years now.
Depressing. I used to like making igloos....or is it iglii? *grin*
I dunno how you people live there. ;) We've been having a heat wave lately, it's been getting up into the lower 70s lately. Delightful. Rain today though, but only in the morning. And yet, I still find the foggy, cold summer weather in San Francisco depressing. It's basically 65 degrees year-round and I find I miss the desert heat of Los Angeles.
It's the Garden of Eden here on the northwest coast!! Very little sunshine, lot's of rain, and regular storms with winds in excess of 100 mph or more. Keeps the air real fresh, don't ya know!
Any updates on this topic? I understand that you're getting annoyed with winter hardships, but the only thing I learned from the posts above is why mages can transmute poison: Janny confessed that she hates them.
Any chance we're past the 200 page mark yet? (600?).
Erik-Berndt Scheper - Welcome Here!
For you? I'll do a count and see - stay posted.
(wry wink) you could, of course, spur things on - see the thread Rumpus Time in the General Discussions topic.
The status page count would be 161, still pounding it through the beginning stages. Feels very like working at the start of Fugitive Prince....start of an arc...
Well I've just finished reading the series so far from start to finish with my first reading of SF. I've been reading them since I was 14 (12 years ago). I love them! I have to admit that I was under the impression when I settled down with SF that it was the last book. Imagine my surprise when I found this site and the joy/horror of Arc 4 and 5.
You cannot write quick enough for my liking Miss Wurts!!!! I will be on tenterhooks until the next one is done. Any progress?
Hi Joelle - welcome here - yes, there's progress.
The chapter section I was working on is done, and the next one, well started and moving along. There's been a little pause to complete a short story, due immediately, but I'm polishing the language, now, and ought to be back on the bigger work later today.
Ooh I'm so excited!!! I have to admit to being madly in love with Arithon and have been since I was 14. It's nice to be up to speed with the books but the wait for the next one will kill me. Ah well, they say anticipation makes it sweeter.
Looking forward to it!
Wow, there's an updates thread! And a name! *is very excited*
And a sneak peak!! Don't forget the best part...
Sometimes bringing these books up to speed make me Rip Out My Hair! (It's all Dakar's fault, today).
I always say, it takes me until chapter Set 5 to hit stride....and this one, so far, is proving to be a hair raiser (that's what I get for not repeating the same plotline, or doing the predictable...)
Holding the fat prophet in line as an apprentice isn't the half of the mess - writing his next line would, absolutely, challenge a Fellowship Sorcerer to fits...
Once, I could count on him tripping over his own feet and throwing in a monkey wrench or three, by way of forehead slapping stupidity...
Now, he's not so blooming stupid....
Amazing what sobriety can do to heal the brain!
Somehow, Dakar causing trouble for even his *writer* doesn't shock me in the least!
Don't know if anyone else noticed this but found an entry for the book on Amazon UK.
Since Janny asked not to, I won't mention the date given - besides you all know to take a date on Amazon with some scepticism, don't you? ;)
Reason I mentioned it is I saw it as a positive, that there's enough interest to merit a page and pre-orders.
I must agree with Starstorm. In fact, this is deliciously ironic, we who have squirmed like little children waiting for Christmas morning, now seeing Janny squirm a little about losing the slap-stick Dakar, instead having someone a little more subtle... This is wonderful revenge!!!
BTW, I was reminded recently of the scene of Dakar and Fairy Toes outside the gates of Jaelot in SoM. It truly is one of the funniest scenes I have read since the chapter with the three trolls (Bill, Bert and Tom) in The Hobbit. Dakar's stupidity coupled with the stupidity of his horse left me crying the last time I read it.
Any other comic foils on the horizon, Janny?
Muahaaa Hah!!! You will have to wait and see.
(Oh, Dakar, you crafty devil!!!)
This is SO much fun...
Man, Janny! You are really, really good at gloating! At least you are a benevolent torturer.
Clansman, you have a TWISTED definition of "benevolent."
Janny, I luv ya anyway, even if you are mean!
Well, yeah. I mean, I DID put the words "benevolent" and "torturer" together!
Janny gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "hurt so good!" I wonder how you would say it in Paravian?
That would be "No Initiate's Trial for You"...oh, wait, that's the Book Nazi from Seinfeld....
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Hmm, so much for imported smileys! My apologies!
Ugh, on the 'advertisement'... it may be a good product but it is one of those websites that 'hijacks' you. I clicked your link and when I tried to close the page it started an online chat... UGH. UGH. UGH!
I've removed the link.
No worries, Trys, although I haven't seen the on-line chat appear myself. Will stick with the conventional smileys and save the bother!
Three weeks without a peep from our tailspinner on how things are going.
I'm wasting away for lack of sustenance here! ;) On behalf of anyone else here who's wondering, mights you drops us a note, preciousssss (hmmm, have to see my shrink about that Gollum complex!)?!
Or, better still, share another snippet... *grins evily*
It is the beginning of an arc, with all the craziness thereof: how to kick off the foundation correctly to build upon what comes next....feels a LOT like the writing of Fugitive Prince....
I am beyond halfway through chapter set four...working daily to lay things in place with an eye toward keeping the pace moving...You Have No Idea.
It HAS been quiet in here...I've let the dust settle because I've been writing. You have no idea...!!!
Snippet: the title of main chapter IV is: (drumroll) Dispossessed.
Make of that what you will...currently, in the subchapter that follows, Asandir's in lane transfer, and next, I gotta scribe what happens when he hits the ground in Rathain.
I haven't been on here very long, but this is a really neat idea. Janny, I like all of your answers and I think that it's wonderful that you do this on your website. How do you come up wiht the time? I haven't noticed anything like this on the websites of any of the other authors that I like. I figured it was because they were too busy.
What a wicked little morsel to feed to your hungry wolf pack.
This should lead to another round of speculation, questions and debate.
Oh you are good...
Cant wait for the book.
- the expulsion of someone (such as a tenant) from the possession of land by process of law
- Freeing from evil spirits
So are we talking about Lysaer or Selidie.
I hope it is Selidie.
The Twisted Sisters would be sent into spiralling chaos without the Prime Matriarch, and no trained senior to fill the void.
Should this happen whilst Lirenda is still struck witless the results could be infuriatingly comedic.
However this could lead to the fulfillment of a thought I had when reading the series for about the third or fourth time waiting for SF. That with fellowship assistance, Elaira would be the one to reign over and rescue the Koriani from themselves.
Nah, too soon for resolution I think. Probably more along the lines of getting our beloved protagonists into deeper messes :P
Well, that was a snippet, all right...the moral to be careful what you ask for.
Dispossesed could also refer, in some crazy fashion, to the Fellowship of the Seven's compact (probably also way too soon, if ever!), the S'Brydion reduced to nomads/tenants w/o Alestron, the iyat in the Waystone (taking interpretational liberties here), the S'Gannley (sic) in Havish, the Clans that had to leave the Caithwood when Asandir raised the trees being able to return (or did that already happen?), and possibly many other scenarios that my feeble brain isn't thinking about right now.
Conclusion: Not enough of a snippet; must have more.
*Repeats evil grin, since it worked the first time!*
In response to You Asked with the Evil Grin -
the title of the subchapter that follows IV. Dispossessed, and that I finished drafting a day or so ago is (drrrrummmmrollll) Kingbreaker.
A snippet. Ta Da--- !
Oh yeah, and - eeeeevil grin straight back at ya - you will NOT guess how these fragmentary titles fit, because it's NOT obvious...in any way.
But you sure can bend your brainwaves into paperclips, trying....
*Feels woozy, must be all these paperclips coming out of my ears! *
*Adds that tidbit for cogitation.*
Admittedly, that'll keep me for a bit.
*Knowing perhaps when not to push it, replaces evil grin with a bow to the Talespinner (as opposed to the erroneous "Tailspinner" referenced previously...yikes!)*
Are you saying that the 'talespinner' has not spun a few tails along the way?
Tails, heads, the whole shooting match, take your pick, your adminship, sir! I'd ask you what you make of the two titles, but (I know) if you told me, you'd have to kill me.... ;)
Well... maybe just scare the dickens out of you. <grin>
if you told me, you'd have to kill me
Well and good, Trys, but you'll not evade the question so easily; I was referring to "Dispossessed", and "Kingbreaker". I'm mortified to have typed "tailspinner" in the first place, and didn't intend ANY further discussion on that...
Can a gryphon's tail spin or can he spin on his tail? :^)
Check out the gryphons in the Narnia movie if you want to see 'some' of what gryphons can do.
All right Walt, don't give our friend The Gryphon an out! ;)
Ok I havent posted in a while but isn't Asandir's Nickname "Kingmaker"? And if it is can "Kingbreaker" be a reference to him?
Had the same thought, John, but who to "break"?
Eldir? The only king the F7 have successfully re-seated? Wouldn't think so...
And our buddy Arithon, while having been accepted into the King's Glade, can hardly be considered "coronated".
Lysaer's never been recognized (the opposite, actually)
There are no surving S'Ellestrion heirs, much less a coronated king.
Arithon (I think!) is the last living descendent of Dari S'Ahelas.
Lysaer is also a descendent of Dari s'Ahelas and there are, potentially, lots more back on Dascen Elur.
Lysaer, at least at the moment, is dealt with (have to be sanctioned and coronated to qualify for "kingbreaking", right?!).
Re Dascen Elur, though, I thought about that after the post, especially the possible descendents who might also be initiates at Rauven. That one's rife with possibilities....
Going back to Dispossed didn't the dragon fry Lysaer's rebuilt capital?
Dictionary.com again (Love that site)
1. evicted, as from a dwelling, land, etc.; ousted.
2. without property, status, etc., as wandering or displaced persons; rootless; disfranchised.
3. having suffered the loss of expectations, prospects, relationships, etc.; disinherited; disaffiliated; alienated
I must like the #3 because again it intrigues me more than the others plus it is also the least obvious.
Ah! Muse Lightbulb goes on, after several days of kicking furniture and picking away at other projects, piecemeal, through thunderstorms....I HAVE IT! The last scene to close out this chapter set....YESSSS!!
Sometimes I rant for a long time, till I strike JUST the right scenario....it HAS to advance the plot in at least 3 new directions, or it doesn't fly, at this stage...Everything in this Arc has to carry double or triple jeopardy...No Sprawl In Length!!!
This series has goooot to Build for the wind up Just So. No slumping at this stage, yahooo!
When it is too quiet in here, you just KNOW the gears are turning at furious speed...I probably tried out "mentally" six or eight angles in to this scene, here, and even, posed it as a full main chapter - all discards...they just did not ring right.
Now I've got it, off to write...!
Oh, and did I say it will advance on at lest 3 - make that 4 angles....
And yet, not a single hint as to what any of these angles are. And take it easy on the furniture; a broken foot is hardly the way to "...build for the wind up...", unless you're building to wind up at the local bonesetters, that is....! ;)
Insomniac (a.k.a., Mark)
Ah, Mark, it's figurative kicking of the mental furniture, often through insomniac nights.
Some days I think my brain has teeth marks on it, for all the thought getting viciously chewed over!
Inventiveness happens with ease....huh!!...not always. It's a great joy when it's effortless, but when it's not, there's always the other kind. Called by Maul the Muse till she squeals...
Clues: how's Morriel/Selidie, iyats, Havish, and Elaira tickle your fancy?
Back from the wilds of the Boreal Forest, a la Canadian Shield! Having read through all of the recent Paravia activity, this thread really caught me up.
Wouldn't it be nice if artistic muse, or just good ideas, happened all the time like they did to Coleridge and Kublai Khan, or at least the first half of that poem? However, if it was always easy, it wouldn't really be worth doing, would it?
Before I get to far into metaphysics, I think I'll shut up.
So many things can affect creativity...so much of the time, it's aiming where you want to go, then holding that focus, till inspiration leaps the gap.
Holding the focus means LIFE can tromple in and mess up...too tight a focus will not let the ideas breathe. Breathing them too much winds you up playing hookey with a bit too much verve...sometimes it's just the case that you're in the wrong hump in the cycle.
Inspiration can wax and wane.
MOVING helps. If you've ever read anything on Open Focus...it's amazing.
But too much moving means no pants in the seat of the chair.
Doing the Ordinary - that's just too easy. Being originally inventive - then piling up the layers of complexity so the story is not linear...yeah, series books are much much much harder to do!
That doesn't mean the "bursts" don't happen. Once I get the take on a scene, like now, it does bust open and flow.
Sometimes whole books do - Hell's Chasm was an explosion. If I could bottle it, I'd be flying all the time! And rich. I don't know of Any writer who produces as fast as they want to...and I Don't mean simply holding a schedule.
I usually get my best ideas when I am mowing the lawn. Walking is pretty good, but there is something about the regular pattern of mowing the lawn that causes a certain focus that lets my mind work in a certain way.
I really must use a notebook after I put the mower away.
(Quoted from the TaleSpinner) "Clues: how's Morriel/Selidie, iyats, Havish, and Elaira tickle your fancy?"
OK, fancy tickled. Dispossessed and Morriel/Selidie? (more evil grinning ensues)
Dispossessed and iyats? Visions of waystones dance in my head...
Dispossessed and Havish? Say it ain't so!
Dispossessed and Elaira? Hunh? Rapport with Arithon? More Personal Crystal Angst? Clueless here....
OK, I'm fishing, I admit it. Thanks for the teasers, oh TaleSpinner Extraordinaire, and if you must bite on something, try a bowl of fruit instead! We don't want anything occluding those synapses.... ;-)
*Wills a clear, thunderstorm-free day Janny's way.*
Well, it WAS a day without T storms, at least, not ones that required a shutdown...and wheeee...I've passed the 300 pages of draft marker!
Oh, and just to confound you, Dispossessed was the title of the last subchapter. This one has a different heading.
(Curses, foiled again??)
Like Reynolds Wrap, I'm afraid...
Used to be a Saturday morning cartoon called "Wacky Races" where the villianous Dick Dastardly (picture the Bowler Hat Guy from Meet the Robinsons and you have him pegged) would always mutter "Curses, foiled again." Interestingly, this program aired around the time of the Nixon administration.....
"Clues: how's Morriel/Selidie, iyats, Havish, and Elaira tickle your fancy?"
Hmm.. am wondering whether the Great Waystone is tossed in here for good measure? And what might Morriel the blood sucking leech be doing running around in Havish? Hasn't one of Eldir's descendants kicked her out? Or is she seeking refuge..
Wacky Races is a great series.. I loved it as a kid and my kids love it..
I keep seeing Dakar when something goes wrong doing his Muttly impression.."sicken fricken mussen..".
I find that I'm at my most creative when driving... which usually leads to the urge to stop on the side of the road somewhere and get my laptop out. Unfortunately then people wonder where I am.
Status: well into main chapter set 5...with the lid about to blow off.
Here is a spur to you mad speculators who have rushed to visit the sneak peek previews: logically, progressing the action forward from the ending of Stormed Fortress, the active threads would SPREAD OUT and diversify...it made sense, to me, to bring all I could to a head, where everything converges, with all the main characters' fates crossing through the same locale.
After that point in time, the threads diverge to other locales...so....rather than write a story that scatters itself to the four winds....it made SENSE to pick up at the next hot nexus of change...and show, faring forward, how that shift unfolds, AND, view backward via history and select character flashbacks, how the closing threads from the last volume (Stormed Fortress) resolve...so, as Initiate's Trial progresses, you will get to view some key character resolutions, yet, from the last Vol, and plunge neck deep into new territory.
Part of what's making this volume so very challenging to write, but it should carry surprises in both directions...
Ah, the fourth arc web's a'weaving!
Truly inspirational Janny - thank ye so much. That's all I can say
I am new at this so please forbear with me.
I have this terrible problem with this series of books . . . I keep reading and re-reading them!! I have given up counting how many times I have re-read the whole series. SF was amazing - resolved so many questions. I loved seeing Seldie being thwarted so beautifully! I need to go and read SF again! I always pick up more details and nuances I missed in my eager haste to indulge my appetite on the first read.
On a different note. Has anybody out there got a hardcover UK copy of Warhost of Vastmark they would sell on to me please? I have been trying for several years now to try and track down a copy Internationally. Mine is a TPB but would dearly love HC to match the rest of my collection.
Thanks Janny for this series - I can't wait for the next book to come out! The waiting is so hard! I have read everything you have put out I think, but this series is by far the best and SF the best to date.
Thanks again and Best Wishes!
Try abebooks.com. They are currently listing 3 copies of WoV in hardcover that appear to be UK editions. They are being sold from UK locations so they likely are.
Hi Dale - welcome here - the UK edition was the only hardback for Warhost in the English language.
Duh! ::sound of wing smacking forehead:: I should've remembered that. Hardcover edition in US was Ships of Merior which contained SoM and WoV.
Thanks for that Janny. Interesting to know.
Hmm...flashbacks...in a story that has so many mysterious "flashforwards" ;-)
Many thanks "Trys" for your help regarding Warhost of Vastmark, Just sorting it now - YAY!! I am so excited!
Dale (alias akal esh)