Just wanted to say how much I appreciate getting updates. They really help with the wait.
I do think that many of the book award competitions are too narrowly focussed on single books. When we look back at SciFi and Fantasy so many of the greats have been major cycles of books rather than a single book. Yet in terms of awards there seems to be little recognition of that. As a reader though I do appreciate some of the cycles and some of the trilogies. Thank you.
While I am really looking forward to the last two books, I am also pleased to here that you are working to a definite end and then plan some standalones. Paravia is an amazing creation but it's hard to see how stand alone stories would match the main cycle. A good decision I think and I am another who would buy a standalone story without hesitation.
Sorry I mean a good decision for stand alone stories in new worlds!
Can all of you slow down the posting so much of it going on lately. (peeking out of lerksville)
Agreed, the volume is too much to handle
Got my hopes up there, thought there was an update.
Writing so hard, I missed a milestone - apparently the draft topped 800 pages (by nine) a few days ago. This marks the shift in scene, halfway through eleven main, and is the leader to the FINALE PUNCH...which encompasses one major event, a twist, and an explosive follow up.
Thanks Janny. Have to at least have 12 chapters then, if 11 main is the leader to all that.
Hi Janny *waves from behind his desk doing very important library stuff*
last update from over a month ago... how is it going?
Best wishes from Germany
Hi Johannes Erk, welcome here - closing in on it. Three major bits fell in place, with finish of this scene taking me into the last two bits of action.
Once I have the denouement nailed in draft, then - refining and polishing up the manuscript, line by line, but once that starts, progress is predictable.
End in sight; I am giving this book two more chapter sets; perhaps less...depends on the wind up. Let's see if I am right, in the play out.
Thanks for the update Janny.
This sounds wonderful. I know we still have probably until end of year/next year for the book, but it is always always worth the wait.
End of next year more like, to get the book in our hands. But my birthday is in August, would love a nice new book to read for my birthday next year. But will be satisfied with whenever it gets done and printed, good things are always worth waiting for.
Is it time to break out the bubbly?? Janny's last tweet may have been a little suggestive of the end??
Annette, looking back through the archive, it took approximately 10 months for Janny to edit/polish her draft for Initiate's Trial, so the end of next year is a more likely publication date.
It takes a while for us to get the book, after Janny has handed in the finished manuscript. Janny handed Initiate's Trial in on Feb 14th 2011, the book was not published till November, later for some areas. It takes a while to actually get the book published and shipped. So hopefully the polishing phase will be quicker this time.
Although I am sure George R. R. Martin's publisher would get his next book out faster.
Thanks for the update, Janny!
Annette, my apologies. I totally misread your comment!
I had thought to look through the archives to see what time-frames looked like. So end of next year is probably right. But we know it will be completely worth it.
So now we have a fair idea as to the wait- how about another peek Janny?
So Janny I take it that this post you made back in 2011
"Each book takes about 2 years' work... which means, I ought to be having a HUGE celebration in about 2014/2015."
means that your HUGE velebrations will not happen till 2018/2019.
HAHA I just thought this was funny.
Creativity never works to a timetable.
It doesn't, and this book has been a right BITCH! But she's a grand bitch, and so nearly there.
I am into a scene I conceived decades ago, and looking to the FINALE pages, also conceived decades ago.
This book is happening bang on the mark, just - not bang on the schedule I could wish. You will all see why, when you get the journey in hand. There were some extremely difficult passages to achieve - they DO NOT EXIST HERE. And some very tricky choices that required digging very very deep for inspiration - ten volumes along, I WILL NOT put a scene in that does not advance everything and not present stuff in the same way. That's difficult. It is all dovetailing now for the final volume, and there is no room to mess up. The pace and tension have to gather speed, AND depth, and if I miss something that needed to be set in place for the last book, there is no going back to fix it.
Believe me, I am exhausted with the pressure. But in sight of the final lines (yeah, I can see them shaping) - and I can say the delivery will be there.
It hasn't been lack of working, it's this book has been HARD GOING. Apologies, truly, for the long wait. I will breathe a huge sigh of relief when I hit that last page of draft.
I can see the wind up of every thread, to finish, just have to spin one down to idle.
Thanks for the update Janny, I am not getting my hopes up it will be as thick as Peril's Gate, but eagerly looking forward to seeing how things turn out.
Thank you so much for all your hard creative work on this book and series. I wait patiently. Take care of yourself.
The book will not be as thick as Peril's Gate.
It will ring in (draft) under a thousand pages. The scenes left: some are in scene fragments I conceived and set down notes for thirty years ago. Other bits, I've known for four decades.
Once the draft is settled, I will burn candle at both ends and the middle to have this turned in ASAP.
Scenes in work, here, are already shooting forward sparks into notes for the final volume. This is a ground changing arc, and the step into vol 11/Arc V will be different.
The chain reaction this arc unleashes - you will not be disappointed.
I will start a countdown soon.
Janny, thank you for all your hard work. It sounds like it has been a very difficult time to get where we are today. I await the finished result and will probably end up with multiple copies like I have of all the books in your series (Hardover, Paper, Ebook).
Thanks for the update Janny.
I am really looking forward to this book and hoping to read chapter 1 on this board one of these days in the too distant future ;-)
Still wondering what Arithon manages to do that stops the F7 in their tracks? :-)
Update: I am making nice progress with the current scene, the fuse is definitely lit at this point for THE FINISH. Still not sure if the book will top at 12 sets or 13, but the ending of this sub-chapter with its one line flashes will give me a clearer handle on that.
I have started marking down cover concepts and toying with colors and tone.
It feels good to be slamming it all home, FINALLY, what a difficult book!!!
I will update when I finish out this chapter set.
Part of the puzzle, ongoing: I have mapped out all of the threads in pretty close detail, but to arrange them - ARGH factor time - because the timeline of these stories Never Backtracks, so slotting in the action of a batch of stuff that is near simultaneously tripped off by ONE EVENT, sequentially, and making sure the narrative tension runs without burps - THAT is giving me the headache, it's not what to write, it's the ORDER to present it. It's like a chinese number puzzle but in 3d.
Exhilarating. But. My brain hurts. Like taking ten SAT tests end to end. That kind.
Just wanted to delurk for a minute to say thanks for posting these little insights into your writing process. I think even just a little glimpse is amazing. You are a veritable wonder woman
Thrilled to hear that the end is nigh. Congratulations and thanks.
Janny, you are the one person on the planet who could pull this off. When I think of all the sloppiness in other epic fantasy series, with dangling threads and bone-jarring inconsistencies, and then look at the intricacy of WoLaS, I am awed by the sheer excellence of your ability to keep it all straight.
I'd likely have to do a flow chart a mile long to get it right, and even then, I would be uncertain.
Your middle sentence there: exactly the sort of post that needs to get to people who are not at all familiar with this series, and may in fact, have to specially look it up.
There is surely enough of this series 'on the ground' now (and when folks see what moves out in the book upcoming) - it will become more evident, still.
Then Song of the Mysteries: YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!