Archive through October 03, 2017

Janny Wurts Chat Area: Arc 4: Sword of the Canon: Destiny's Conflict: Status Updates: Archive through October 03, 2017
   By Melanie Trumbull on Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 06:08 pm: Edit Post

Weather? Weather? What was that about weather?

(Amazon dot com)


   By Annette on Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 07:50 pm: Edit Post

I would also love to read more about Elshain, and Morriel's earlier years as Prime.


   By Janny Wurts on Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 08:02 pm: Edit Post

Not sure what I'd be doing with the shorts; that will be determined when I get them done. I've got the three already in e format in the Paravia store...could be adding to those, or may compile a collection.

Figure it out when the time comes.


   By Jeff on Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 08:58 pm: Edit Post

Hi, everyone.

I just got a request from Amazon to accept a delay for shipping my physical copy. If anyone gets that, be sure to acknowledge agreement to wait until the book is available. Not doing so before October 28 would result in an advance order being cancelled.
As far as I can tell, there's no delay noted for the eBook; neither on Amazon nor Google Play.


   By Jeff on Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 09:43 pm: Edit Post

Hello, Ms. Wurts.

I did a preliminary rating on Amazon with an explanation for the delay. If anything seems inaccurate, let me know and I'll edit it.

I notice that the ISBN number is different for the hardcover from when I preordered
(ISBN-13: 978-0008230029, ISBN-10: 0008230021),
and the current listing
(ISBN-13: 978-0008260293, ISBN-10: 000826029X). I wonder what the difference is.

Hope this helps...


   By Auna on Thursday, September 28, 2017 - 11:07 pm: Edit Post

I just got the same email. In the order details, it has no clue when the new shipping date will be.


   By Gill on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 12:58 am: Edit Post

Please Jenni publish a collection of all the short stories. I would love to have them in an anthology of their own


   By Melanie Trumbull on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 11:54 am: Edit Post

Amazon sent me the same request to acknowledge and accept the indefinite shipping/delivery delay. Just approved it now.


   By Janny Wurts on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 01:29 pm: Edit Post

Thanks everybody for the bulletin on the 'delay' on the preorders; I have NEVER seen such whiplash on when a book would be out - always, always before when they gave me a pub date after turn in, it was SOLID...I have no idea why the musical chairs; unless it is HarperCollins 360 in NYC dealing with the unpacking and getting the books into the distribution channels in the USA. To clarify: there is no 'delay' on the British side of the pond, these are only US or Canada 'delays?' Every region is different; and it makes a difference knowing which region might be receiving such notices.

On the bright side: looks like there will be plans going forward to put Destiny's Conflict into audio format - narrator undetermined, release undetermined, so far as I know, only this volume, and production isn't started, yet....I ONLY learned of this yesterday and will keep you all posted as things develop. Don't know any more than this, at the moment.


   By Auna on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 02:38 pm: Edit Post

My delay is in the US.
OOh audiobook of even one would be sweet!


   By Annette on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 07:28 pm: Edit Post

The audio book option sounds interesting, but I will wait to hear more before I believe them.


   By Jeff on Friday, September 29, 2017 - 11:51 pm: Edit Post

Mine's USA as well.


   By Janny Wurts on Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 10:15 am: Edit Post

Probably what has happened to the USA orders, is they've gotten word there will (?) not be copies in their warehouse to ship/and HC 360 has not yet given them a firm date, as to when they will get the copies into the system. Now, I know who to ask, so thanks for responding with location of the problem.

From what I have, it's apparently now 'standard' for HarperCollins books to have audio editions circa 2014....in my case, they 'overlooked' they had the rights, and it seems they are following through with Destiny's Conflict. I know nothing more, yet; but so for the correspondence looks good for this title. Now that I know, I will stay abreast of the planning/work with them on a pronunciation guide, etc. because even if they start with the tail of the dog, I'd like to keep things consistent in the event the earlier titles are picked up.

Right now, I am checking out narrators to find a voice that suits....so, who are your favorites? (disregarding the one who did Harry Potter in about a thousand voices, I'm sure that scale of production is beyond the pale at this stage). Who do you like?

I prefer: a voice matched to the main protagonist(s) (male, in this case) and after that, they absolutely HAVE to be able do the female dialogue without sounding ridiculously breathy, patronizing, or squeaky-cooey. Last, since it's a London production, so they may prefer/lean towards a British talent...which is OK with me, the other five titles of mine available from Audible also have a British narrator. I just can't see the Paravian bits done in a flat American twang, and if they gave any of the characters a localized American accent, I'd probably wince.

When I selected styles, before, I leaned towards clarity of speech, and just the right emotional shading - not the way, way over the top dramatized character voices - because in large part the language does the work, and TOO much 'acting' could take the style 'over the top.'

But if there are audio aficionadoes among you, by all means, suggest your favorites if you think they might suit the series!! I will, absolutely, check out and run down every single name that you put forward.


   By Dan on Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 01:24 pm: Edit Post

I liked David Thorpe who narrated the Cycle of Fire and wouldn't have a problem if he did WoLaS, he did a good job on the Cycle trilogy.
If you wanted to think outside the box though, I would suggest Imogen Church. I know she's not a man, but she's narrated Ed Cox's Relic Guild trilogy in the last few years and did an absolutely stunning job, I was really impressed at her range of talent and may be worth at least exploring before completely ruling her out.


   By Carl D. Stolzenburg on Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 05:57 pm: Edit Post

I'm one of the folk who hovers on the periphery of this forum, enjoying sharing joys and anticipation via email notifications. You all manage to cover my joys and impatient nail-biting. I've been reading WoLaS since high school and typically make an event out of each release.
I had to chime in when it came to Audiobook narrators, though, as I'll likely consume everything the second (or twelfth) time in the car. I spend 5k miles a month in the car and have listened to a pretty grand selection of narrators. They really do make or break the enjoyment of a story in this format. I would love for more people to get to enjoy this amazing world.
Nick Podehl is my absolute favorite narrator. While American, he's incredible with accents, not too bass to manage an Arithon timbre and pitch, and could pull off clan/townsborn accents with ease. He's done the Patrick Rothfuss books thus far and I believe I enjoyed the characters in David Hair's stories more than when I read the books. I've actually searched books by his name to listen to, knowing he selects great titles and makes great things happen with them.
Elliot Hill has narrated some of my favorite books by Robin Hobb and could do well. Steven Brand has narrated Anthony Ryan books and sucked me in too. Both narrate women's voices well too without pulling one out of the story. Simon Vance is great, but I can't really imagine Arithon coming from him.
Best to everyone! Anxiously awaiting my Amazon shipping notice!


   By Melanie Trumbull on Saturday, September 30, 2017 - 07:52 pm: Edit Post

OOH! You had to ask!

Actor Robert Carlyle:
has done an audiobook version of
the novel, "The Cutting Room,"
by fellow Glaswegian Louise Welch.
It's a murder mystery, both male and female characters.
Carlyle does both, beginning to end.
There are snippets you can listen to online
for free.

He does voice-work of different kinds.
He has done adverts/commercials
and has an agent for those.

The video gamers know Carlyle
as the voice of
Gabriel Belmont/Dracula
in the Castlevania Shadows series.


   By David Cornelson on Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 02:04 pm: Edit Post

Got the email that my Book Depository:

Your pre-order has been released by the publisher and is on its way to our warehouse. Your order will be dispatched from our warehouse soon, and we'll let you know once it's on its way to you. Your items and delivery address are below, if these details have changed, please contact our Customer Service Team.


   By Janny Wurts on Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 03:45 pm: Edit Post

That is thrilling news, David!

I am SO incredibly excited to get this book into readers' hands, and the prospect of feedback (finally!) has me on the edge of my seat.

FOUR DAYS until On Sale date, and counting down.

I ought to mention: be INCREDIBLY CAREFUL to mark spoilers!!!! This means, prefacing spoilers with a whole line of SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER!!! warning, then, you HAVE TO hit a lot of 'returns' to make a blank space on the page so the spoiler is ONLY visible if the user scrolls down. This book is SO LOADED with huge reveals, and the erratic nature of the book's distribution means readers who have not received the book yet are vulnerable to seeing a post before they can read for themselves. Please, let's keep their experience undisturbed.

Also: when the book hits, MARK YOUR THREADS as spoilers if they contain information about the story. If you want to start a thread enthusing that DOES NOT GIVE ANYTHING AWAY - then that is OK, just please, respect the experience for others.

Thank you! This is a great group of folks, and the old hands here know to be mindful - this reminder was as much for the newcomers as anything.


   By Annette on Sunday, October 01, 2017 - 06:21 pm: Edit Post

I also got the email from the Book Depository. Rang the local bookstore to see if they had it hidden away in the back room, but who ever they have down there today does not seem to be that adept at using the computer.


   By Hunter on Monday, October 02, 2017 - 04:11 am: Edit Post

I'm hoping to get my copy tomorrow when released in Australia.. woohoo!


   By Hunter on Monday, October 02, 2017 - 04:13 am: Edit Post

Can the honourable web master add a separate Spoiler topic for Destiny's Conflict?


   By Annette on Monday, October 02, 2017 - 11:33 am: Edit Post

Once we have the book in hand, we can make our own spoiler topic.

It is strange I have both the hardback and trade paperback ordered with the Book Depository, but they only sent the processing notification for the hardback. I checked my order for the trade paperback it says both processing, and awaiting publication. System seems a bit confused.


   By Andrew Ginever on Monday, October 02, 2017 - 02:39 pm: Edit Post

As was done in the past when new volumes in the series were released:

The Spoiler Topic for Initiate's Trial has been moved from the top level of the topics down into the main Initiate's Trial thread.

A new top-level Spoiler Topic for Destiny's Conflict has been added. Please put any spoilers for Destiny's Conflict there, with the appropriate spoiler warnings.

If you want to discuss where you think the story will go in the final arc, the appropriate place for this discussion would be in the "Speculation (Spoiler Rules Apply)" thread under Arc 5, which has been unlocked. Please use appropriate spoiler warnings there too.

Finally, if you're very observant, you might also notice that the padlock is gone from the main Arc 5 folder icon :-)

(Message edited by andrew_ginever on October 02, 2017)


   By Annette on Monday, October 02, 2017 - 08:44 pm: Edit Post

My local bookstore in Tasmania, Area 52 have the trade paperback in this morning, no sign of the hardcover, so I guess the trade paperback will do. Pick it up in the morning, they have put it away for me.


   By David Cornelson on Monday, October 02, 2017 - 08:56 pm: Edit Post

Soo jealous...need book now!


   By Hunter on Monday, October 02, 2017 - 10:18 pm: Edit Post

Got my copy.. :-) Now back to work.. :-(


   By Annette on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 04:06 am: Edit Post

Have my copy now as well, will start reading later on tonight. Did notice some new names on the map.


   By Janny Wurts on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 12:55 pm: Edit Post

Oh boy! My anticipation is through the roof (wondering how long it will take you to reach the bits that will make you want to throw the book across the room, then snatch it back, because - it's a WURTS BOOK and you NEVER CAN TELL where it will take you!!!

My long wait is ending - TWO READERS NOW HAVE THE BOOK IN HAND!

I am fit to split with excitement; what a fine bit of happy spice on a morning where I did some signal progress on a VERY intense scene in Song of the Mysteries!!!


   By john herrmann on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 01:13 pm: Edit Post

ordered mine through Barnes and Noble since i have an old nook i read on. unfortunately, my memory is like a sieve so i'm going to need to reread the series again before i read the latest.

can't wait!


   By Alan on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 02:07 pm: Edit Post

Kind of frustrated, tbh. I placed a preorder on Amazon back in March when the listing first appeared/allowed preordering and now, there's 2 different hardcover editions and the one that I preordered has a 'no estimated release date' while the one that was added sometime in September says January for release. BookDepository hasn't emailed me that mine is forthcoming and shows it as sold out now.


   By Melanie Trumbull on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 02:45 pm: Edit Post

No further communication from Amazon (USA) on my pre-order;
however, I went to look at the orders on my account,
and I pulled up the page for Destiny's Conflict, hardcover, at Amazon,
just to see if anything was different than the last time I looked.

Now Amazon (USA) says that the hardcover edition that I pre-ordered,
"will be released on January 23, 2018."
Which date agrees with Barnes and Noble's delivery estimate
for Destiny's Conflict, hardcover.


   By Hunter on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 02:52 pm: Edit Post

Good to see the important readers (in Australia) have the Book first!! :-)


   By Alan on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 03:04 pm: Edit Post

I chatted Amazon, they don't currently have the book and are waiting for it.


   By Dan on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 03:04 pm: Edit Post

Much to my disappointment, Amazon hasn't dispatched my copy a few days early as they have been known to do in the past. Seems like it's going to be Thursday at the earliest that I get mine :-(


   By Janny Wurts on Tuesday, October 03, 2017 - 03:40 pm: Edit Post

I am truly sick over the discrepancies on the so called 'release' date of this book - I was told, only a few weeks ago (three? Four?) that 'Jan 5th'
was to be the USA on sale date, even though the books 'would arrive' in NY off the container in November....and the 'on sale' date given to me for the UK was to be Oct 5th.

I rejoice to see that readers are getting their books early, but it runs me to ragged fury to see the dates and ISBNs shifting all over the map, and then to see Book Depository is 'sold out' before the on sale date ever hits!

I am so glad for every one of you whose patience is sustaining this confusing chaos....As you knew, I turned the book in LAST AUGUST, over a year ago, completed - and the copy edits and page proofs left my desk on time, precisely....there IS no reason for this, other than the sloppiness in the system and failure to co-ordinate in the computer age.

I promise the book will be worth it, and IF we can gain buzz and momentum before Song of the Mysteries' release, then, the system will run much, much better due to loss if profits the powers that be have to notice.

If you get the book, MAKE A LOT OF NOISE, and on more forums than this one; and if you LOVE THE BOOK, shout it out where folks can see it. Best we can all do at this stage.

I have the opening scenes going in Song of the Mysteries and they are SEARING! The finale of the whole shebang HAS to draw notice, and the immensely intense ending of Destiny's Conflict can only bode well for the future.