Archive through June 27, 2005

Janny Wurts Chat Area: Book Nook: Archive through June 27, 2005
   By Sandtiger on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 07:27 am: Edit Post

Winter,

I highly recommend Jennifer Roberson's Sandtiger and Del books. ::Funny that:: 6 Books that make a complete set. (Sword Dancer, Sword Singer, Sword Maker, Sword Breaker, Sword Sworn, Sword Born).

Also, Carol Berg's Rai Kirah Trilogy (Transformation, Revelation, Restoration) and her Standalone, Song of the Beast.

Both excellent reading.

Sandtiger


   By Cheryl Detmer on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 07:37 am: Edit Post

Argh forgot to mention Rai-Kirah Trilogy. Don't tell Carol that omg. That is the best of them all and it is completed for now. I second that recommendation of Carol Berg and her other books as well.


   By Laurence J Johnson on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 08:07 am: Edit Post

Hello everyone, I have obtained a book (on loan)by an author called SHERI S TEPPER, this is a new author to me, are any of you familiar with her work? The book which I have is called THE FRESCO. Cheers from Laurence.


   By Janny Wurts on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 11:51 am: Edit Post

This chat does not have "rules" - it is run by an individual, with my name on it - a joint effort...you are free to say what you think, back up why you feel or think as you do...any author who writes can fail to please everybody...a reader can be disappointed in a story for may reasons that are legitimate for THEM.

Bear in mind two things: this area is done in free will for the joy of it - you are guests of each other, here, hosted by the Gryphon.

Honest disappointment over a story IS ok, just if it runs on to the point of (possibly) unduly coloring someone else's experience, or even putting a new reader off from assessing a book's story line for themselves - then it doesn't embrace free thought in quite another way. Or encourage the free enterprise of individualistic creativity.

This chat strives (imperfectly) to encourage more than one angle.

One reader's poison may be another's cuppa tea - there is room for all of them - - I don't think any ONE POST here that spoke about STORY was at all inappropriate - even if the head of momentum was building in only one direction.

This may well have been a legitimate direction - storywize, but personal comments about the author crept in - and that author is NOT HERE. Critiques of books - always OK. Critiques of AUTHORS who are not present to speak for themselves - not so OK, in my back yard.

Your personal opinions about other people's "shortfalls" may be more honestly done on their turf, not on mine, when they are fellow professionals. Stories are public. Personal comments are personal - and I do not care to have fellow authors HURT by things said about them here, if they are not party to the discussion, but could well find this by search.

Book Nook is for story discussion, not character commentary....:-)

Please PLEASE note: nobody said or did anything awful!!! You are all longtime friends, and welcome here. Hannah, the above explanation was NOT PERSONAL but a general note of illumination so all can see that here, kindness matters.

I prefer to say we care about how we treat our differences - opinions that lead to understanding and open exchange of ideas are great, and can be "opinionated" - just please, it's about how a book made YOU feel, not how the author IS. With allowance for the idea that, another reader may feel OK to decide quite differently, even if they are the only one in a "crowd" of others.

Thanks - !!! I appreciate you all for the individuals you are, too.


   By fhcbandmom on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 12:54 pm: Edit Post

Winter - please read the Coldfire Trilogy by C.S. Freidman. The story finsihes up in 3 books, but the main character will "haunt" you forever!


   By Cheryl Detmer on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 01:56 pm: Edit Post

I just recommended Janny's books to a group I know on a celebrity site at NBC.com. I didn't realize the actress read Harry Potter books and some fantasy and she wanted to hear our recommendations so I put in Janny's name. I don't know if she'll read her but I know she likes me and does listen to our recommendations. Thought it would help get Janny's name noticed too there. Everyone seems excited about the new Harry Potter book. I could tell by a sample I read of her that she is great author. I'll have to read those books too. I do enjoy the movies but haven't read the books yet. I will though. It does seem like the books are better like it usually is.


   By Jeffrey L Watson on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 02:08 pm: Edit Post

Hannah,

No I did not archive the posts before I deleted them.

To all,

As to why I deleted them, there are a couple of reasons.

1) The thread, in conjunction with the other one on the same subject that was occurring at the same time in another topic, had, in my opinion, gone on long a little too long and that it was treading close to the edge of attacking the author directly, something I can not in good conscience allow.

2) Everytime I read one of those posts, I was tempted to wade in with my opinion but fortunately I managed to avoid that (see below about use of personal energies).

So rather than try to sort out which posts were pushing the edge and either delete or edit lines out of them, I just deleted the entire thread.

So I suppose the question of censorship and/or dictatorial decisions should be addressed. Is it censoring, yes it is. As owner and moderator of this board I reserve that right for myself. Long time visitors here know this. I can only endeavor to be as fair as possible. Am I dictator, well I'm certainly the only one who makes the decision as to whether a post can stay (Janny can suggest but in the final evaluation it is my decision). However, I try not to dictate what people can post here in terms of their opinions, only in how they post those opinions. A rule of thumb I would suggest if you are ever wondering if your post is 'over the edge' on all subjects but specifically as it relates to the issue of dicussing other author's works in this forum: if you were standing in front of the author, would you say it to their face AND would they not be offended by what was said. It doesn't matter if you would say something offensive to them, only if they would be offended. Turned around if someone said something similar to you, would you be offended.

One other thought on the subject of what is appropriate to post. I'm a firm believer that spending one's personal energy in positive directions to support what one likes and wants is desirable and spending one's energy in opposite endeavors is not desirable. I try to do this in everything I do. I am not always successful, I am after all only human (oh only too human when it comes to things that I am passionate about). However, I will tend to apply those same rules to the content of this board, again, with varying success rates.

No one should take offense at having their post deleted, no one post caused me to delete the entire thread. It was all the posts together.

Jeff Watson

(Message edited by admin on June 25, 2005)


   By Trys on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 02:14 pm: Edit Post

Laurence,

I like Sheri S. Tepper's works. Her early stuff had more of a science fiction bend than her later stuff. I have The Fresco on the shelf but have not yet read it. My favorite books by her are a loose trilogy consisting of Grass, Raising the Stones, and Sideshow. I hadn't read any of her stuff for a number of years when I found Sideshow and I was intrigued that one of the main characters was a conjoined twin. Excellent books these three.

Do let us know what you think of The Fresco.

Trys


   By Laurence J Johnson on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 04:35 pm: Edit Post

Hello Trys, thanks for the information, it will be a while before I read THE FRESCO, as I'm currently reading Anselm Audley's Heresy, the only comment that I will make about it at this time, is that it's well written!

Sheri S Tepper has written many books, I found them listed in the fantastic fiction website. The website address is shown below, skol from Laurence.

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/authors/Sheri_S_Tepper.htm


   By Auna on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 12:41 pm: Edit Post

The Harry Potter books are extremely good. I'd definitely recommend reading them if you haven't yet. They are good reading even for adults.