Archive through December 07, 2005

Janny Wurts Chat Area: Arc 3: Alliance of Light: Fugitive Prince, Grand Conspiracy; Peril's Gate & Traitor's Knot: Traitors Knot Discussions: Spoiler Topics: Arithon's age: Archive through December 07, 2005
   By Cheryl Detmer on Thursday, December 01, 2005 - 08:48 pm: Edit Post

The ending I see is Arithon saving Lysaer and redeeming him and restoring the paravians. It could be Arithon will be a matyr I hope not though. I hope he has a child or a son. I'd love to see him raise a boy with Elaira. I'd like that for them. It's sad they had to do what they did to his seed or daughter in TK.


   By Maria Ĺborg on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 09:03 am: Edit Post

I must say I can easily picture Arithon dangling a little girl with wild, reddish brown locks and high cheekbones on his knee. I´m just hoping that Janny can too! :-)

Maria


   By susan stevens on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 11:50 am: Edit Post

I don't know how, or by what type of trial arithon could attain fellowship status OR equality, but i have him pegged for sethvirs position, which by definition must mean sethvir spends himself extravagently over some disaster and passes the wheel or joins the paravians.etc


   By Róisín on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 12:33 pm: Edit Post

susan: I know it seems a nice idea, but honestly, I hope he eventually he will be able to pull out his lyranthe, live freely with Elaira and have kids. I hope he gets to live the kind of family life that he never had as a kid.

Although come to think of it, Halliron gave up his family to be Masterbard of Athera... Also, if Arithon became King of Rathain he'd have have the family home, but would still have to carry out public duties.

Wonder if he and Elaira would ever just retire? (After they saved the world, of course!)


   By Cheryl Detmer on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 03:55 pm: Edit Post

I want him to have a son. I think he'd be so great with a boy and he could train him in the arts of music and swordfighting but he'd be cute with a daughter too. I see a daughter that way for him too. Maybe he could have one of each or him and Elaira could have two children.


   By juliana on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 05:16 pm: Edit Post

If we go by the original strands cast by the Fellowship in one of the earlier books and the prologue in CoMW, Arithon's life will be one of cycles of intense violence and turmoil. It is true one can raise children during horrible times- witness the Iraquis, but I don't think that is Arithon's desire. The mistwraith's curse must be lifted before he would dangle any child on his knee


   By Róisín on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 05:44 am: Edit Post

Juliana - I agree with his choice. The children would be born with varying degrees of the same geas let alone being born in turmoil. Kids should not be pawns for anyone to use. People often have kids and don't think of the world they are bringing them into.

I once had someone say to me: "Single mothers wanting to have kids is selfish" and I laughed and asked her, "Do a couple have children for different reasons? Do any parents have kids for the KID'S sake?"

That's what I like about Arithon's choice. He's thinking of the CHILD and the life it would have to lead, not himself as father or Elaira as mother, or the future of Rathain etc...


   By Juliana on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 02:08 pm: Edit Post

Hi Roisin:
The children do not inherit any of the curse. I think that was said by one of the Fellowship, but also Lysaer's son was clean of any of the mistwraith geas. I was refering to the overall "global" effects of the curse. Arithon has five hundred years to father children if he desires to.That is long time in which to hopefully resolve the cause and effects of the Mistwraith's curse. He has already said he would not bring children into the life he must lead at present.

Janny- please correct me if I'm wrong but procreation was not the motivation for a sexual relationship with Elaira.


   By Trys on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 02:12 pm: Edit Post

I think Róisín may have been referring to the geas of Compassion that is bound to the s'Ffalenn line.


   By Blue on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 02:37 pm: Edit Post

Spoiler Alert!!

I'm not presuming to answer for Janny, Juliana, but the union Arithon and Elaira were planning was NOT for procreation - When Sidir and Braggen started cheering for Dakar's prophecy of a "girlchild conceived this night," Feithan told them it was nonsense, since she had helped Elaira prepare the potion to prevent conception.