End of an arc - time for a big battle..

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   By Hunter on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 09:33 pm: Edit Post

The melody Arithon put into Lirenda's personal crystal has yet to come to later light and I think it's a factor in the ultimate saving or death of Lirenda.

I'm leaning towards Lirenda appealing - or more correctly her yearning for escape and inability to refuse the unconditional compassion embodied in Arithon - to quote the situation with Elaira and the Riathan Paravian, quite simply her being called, and Arithon cannot, or will not, refuse to Answer and Save Lirenda.

Wouldn't that be a grand irony, Lirenda's downfall in the Koriathain was due to her infatuation with Arithon only for Arithon to ultimately rescue her from Koriani (Morriel's) retribution..

   By Róisín on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 01:28 am: Edit Post

On the one hand, I can see how it might be possible for Arithon to rescue Lirenda - but again, given his own lesson in 'self-help' in Kewar, I wonder if he would.

The sound in her crystal brings out her deepest wish - which I actually think is not his love, but freedom. It is up to her to then find out what is limiting her personal freedom - she hasn't considered Koriani practices in any other light than something for her to achieve success - so it has come to physically trap her. She believes what her mother said about her - she has no natural female instincts - but Arithon's sound belies that. It's not that she does not have it, but has cut herself off from it.
Can't wait to see what she chooses.

   By Jo on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 08:15 am: Edit Post

Does anyone actually think that Arithon will prevail and live to fulfill his dreams of music and Elaria, he really needs a break and to get it on with her without any interferance. Has anyone sussed Dakars vision of Arithon getting skewered by the unicorn. After everything he has been thru ending up as a kebab is not a just end. I can understand Elaria being blessed, having to put up with Arithon and all the baggage that goes with him. Also I think Kevor has a big part to play yet, maybe he can help Lysaer see what a complete idiot (to put it midly) he is being.

I am still rereading grand c at the mo still makes me weep - Daviens maze - oh what a softy I am.

   By Jo on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 05:16 am: Edit Post

I apologise to everyone as i think the above should have been on a spoiler page really sorry, hope everyone has read what i was refering to sorry again

   By Maddie on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:43 pm: Edit Post

You may think me really stupid but what is a mountback, I take it its not a nice term as used quite a few times to describe Arithon. Sorry if I sound like a great big doh!

   By Trys on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 03:37 pm: Edit Post


From www.dictionary.com:

Pronunciation Key (mount-bngk) n.

1. A hawker of quack medicines who attracts customers with stories, jokes, or tricks.
2. A flamboyant charlatan.


   By Maddie on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 04:30 pm: Edit Post

Thanks Trys I wouldn't say that Arithon is a charlatan though, as I understand that means he makes fraudulant claims and I thought he was a straight talking honest kinda guy, I tell ya these books have me very confused. I thought Lysaer was the charlatan. (My dictionary didn't have mounteback in it didn't think to look on the net)

   By Christine on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:49 am: Edit Post

I think Arithon was being refered to as a mountebank when the story was in the perspective of Lysaer's followers. To them Arithon would seem to be a charlatan because Lysaer is the kind and perfect leader; even though the readers know his intentions are misplaced.

   By Paul Hammond on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 09:52 pm: Edit Post

On Paravians refusing to Name the Mistwraith - we know that Traithe got himself into trouble when he *did* Name them, only solvable by burning himself out - the wraiths seem to attack when they "notice" something - the free ones on Merak didn't become a danger until the Fellowship drew attention by calling Kharadmon.

I think the Paravians didn't Name the wraiths because they *knew* how dangerous that was - and a thought I've just had, their withdrawal from Atheria is similar to Arithon's "containment" of the curse in Kewar - he "withdrew" rather than warding and fighting, and then used the same technique of withdrawal to defeat the necromancers in TK...

   By Adam Drake on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 05:38 pm: Edit Post

An interesting question:

Would being gored by a Unicorn (who's horns transmit the prime vibration) be a way (only way?) to remove a bane geas tied around someones life force without killing them?

Dakar is after all prone to misinterpreting his prophecies and indeed the F7 make mistakes from time to time.

Another note: What would count as the mistwriath being 'dealt with' - removal of tormented souls on Paravia or dealing with Marak as well? The Fellowship of 7 made a huge mistake so I tend to favour them having to deal with Marak before the Paravians return. That said Something about the prologue to COM implies that the Paravians and F7 are gone by the time people look back on this - it seems that no one around recalls what occured so Seers meditate upon it...

Prehaps the F7, Paravians (and Arithon/Elaira?) go to Marak once all is over to heal the broken world and leave Paravia to Mankind? After all the Paravians were sent to redeem a great mistake, why not do so again (indeed the whole Davien rebellion could be a lead up to that because he IS bound by the Drake oath so can't do something to imperil paravians, maybe the peril he sought to avert with the rebellion was Stagnation).

Final Note: I can't remember where but it is explicity said that there is at least one Live Great Drake out there so F7 membership is very much up for grabs. IMO F7 are more defined by the level of understanding of the Universe they possess than the Drake binding.

   By Mark Stephen Kominski on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 11:23 pm: Edit Post

Davien seems to confirm a "Live Great Drake" in TN when he references "...Haspastion's Living Mate..." unless, of course, the Great Drakes aren't species-particular when selecting their mates....
Just happened to have re-read that passage recently, and having enjoyed your speculation, thought I'd share my short-term memory contents (before they go away!).

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