Archive through March 22, 2007

Janny Wurts Chat Area: Arc 3: Alliance of Light: Stormed Fortress: Status: Archive through March 22, 2007
   By PurplePenny on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 02:11 pm: Edit Post

skeoke: "I don't care if the UK version is printed on toilet paper"

Ah, I see that you've heard of the latest UK government initiative to save paper..... :-)


   By Trys on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 05:31 am: Edit Post

The reason for different covers is two different publishers, therefore two different opinions on what will sell the book.


   By Angus on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 08:54 am: Edit Post

Now that I think of it, most fantasy covers in the bookstores I have been to in Canada tend to focus on characters in the story, and often, to my perception, come off as the cover of a comic book. Robert Jordan's books are a perfect example. Don't get me wrong, as I have been a big fan of a lot of this artwork (including that in comic books when I was younger). However, I submit that this kind of cover helps to perpetuate the adolescent stereotype that fantasy perpetually bears on this continent, despite the fact that fantasy has existed as a literary tradition since Homer!

I have always preferred the landscape covers, as they make me feel like I am actually there. They just seem more evocative somehow. And more adult.


   By Mark Timmony on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 11:57 pm: Edit Post

Just to let people know Galaxy Bookshop (an independant Science Fiction/Fantasy & Horror Specialist) in Sydney will be carrying both the HB and TP version of Stormed Fortress and we are happy to ship it anywhere in the world.

Postage charges can be found on our website

www.galaxybooks.com.au

Mark.


   By Laneth Shadow-Walker on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 12:03 am: Edit Post

What's the going price on HB? (Hard Bound, yeah?)
In AUD, with VIC postage?


   By Angus on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 09:02 am: Edit Post

Cool website, Mark. Still, like Amazon.co.uk I could only find a pre-order for the Trade Paperback.

However, now that I have an "in", sign me up! I couldn't locate a "contact us" bit on your website, but I didn't look that hard. Could you e-mail me with more information about pre-ordering the hardcover at abickerton@ripnet.com?

As you can tell from my previous postings, I am quite determined to get the UK hardback edition of Stormed Fortress. Yes, I would read it if it was printed on toilet paper (thanks Skeoke), but I like to read it over and over again. I find that toilet paper just does not stand up!


   By Angus on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 09:14 am: Edit Post

Mark:

I looked harder, and sent your store an e-mail about pre-ordering the hardcover edition. I look forward to hearing from you, but a lot of North American Janny readers would probably like to hear from you on this page.


   By Mark Timmony on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 11:43 pm: Edit Post

Hi Angus,

As yet there are no details for the HB edition. Local Harpercollins HB's retail at about $59.95 (AUS) and I am confident that a HB Stormed Fortress (UK Edition) will be the same.

I have created a 'dummy' title for the HB in our system today - 'official' ISBN and other details will be added as they become known.

My store deputy has spoken to the production manager at HarperCollins and she has said that it's too early for them to have the details yet but she'll keep us posted (I'm already hassling her for an advance copy hehehe).

P.S. Laneth, postage to Melbourne is $5.00


   By Janny Wurts on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:19 am: Edit Post

At This Moment - it's recommended that anyone who wants Stormed Fortress should plan to support the British release.

There will not be a Meisha Merlin production of this title. Let it be known, it's no fault of Stephe's - we remain on friendly terms. Let him make his own announcements regarding MM - but if you wanted TK or Hell's Chasm, and are holding out - don't wait on tomorrow.

Nobody is more disappointed than Stephe - and me - to be making this announcement.

For anyone wanting the Hardbound of this title from the UK press run - they only gear that run for libraries, and it is a VERY SMALL NUMBER! If you are wanting this book for your collection in hardback, you will need to order EARLY....if enough of you do this, it could increase the press run enough to accommodate - because as of this moment, I know there are MORE AMERICAN HARDBACK READERS than the past press runs for the series will allow....so to avoid disappointment, make your wishes known on the matter.

Supporting Galaxy Bookshop in Australia - my applause, it's a great shop, and Mark a superb fellow reader.

HarperCollins, Voyager in the UK does have a website page - If they have an email contact for readers, and you wish to use it - do please keep your party manners!

The fact there will not be a Meisha Merlin is very fresh news (yesterday) -and alternative future plans are obviously nebulous at this stage - what other option and opportunities may present could take time to impliment -- or not. I just don't know at this stage. On the adage that it's best to support what IS concrete, Voyager's pub date is firm, and advance orders for this title will support that effort. The hardback/Trade Paperback release are simultaneous in Britain, and you heard it here, the hardbacks will not necessarily be on the shelves or easy to find, if you have your heart set on keeping your collection current.

Australia and NZ generally get Trade Paperbacks, unless there's a specialty shop or special order - but do correct me if you live there and I am wrong in my assessment.

As other developments present, I will keep this website informed.


   By Angus on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 01:41 pm: Edit Post

Janny, and all:

You can contact Harper Collins fromt the website (which is an annoying site, sorry to say), but it is hard to determine where you are sending your message. As a Canadian, I sent my query to "International trade and catalogue", as a blind guess. UK residents may wish to send to the UK catalogue. Perhaps "Publicity" is the place to send it. There is no category for general inquiries.

Bad news about the North American publisher. When you look as the amazing quality of this story, and each book, the intricacy of the plots and characters, etc. etc. etc. I am amazed that publishers are not falling over themselves to get the rights to this series.

Baffling. Totally baffling.


   By Iris on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 02:45 pm: Edit Post

Hi Angus,

I've sent my query to publicity...will let you know what they say. Meanwhile, I've pre-purchased through Amazon UK. Paperback is better than nothing by all accounts!

Mark - if you end up getting hardback copies I will absolutely buy one (maybe I'll have to pick it up in person!)

Janny - Baffling indeed. Good luck with alternate plans.

Iris


   By Janny Wurts on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 03:32 pm: Edit Post

An informational note:

UK HarperCollins/Voyager only has "territory" for this title in Great Britain, Australia, and New Zealand (commonwealth, excluding Canada, which falls under North American rights, and is not included for that reason) - therefore, inquiries should not go to the International or Canadian catalog - the title won't be listed or available there, as per my existing contract.


   By Susan C on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 03:35 pm: Edit Post

I panicked when I saw Stormed Fortress was not being published in the US. So I dashed online to Amazon UK and pre-ordered my book. I had no problem ordering the book even though I live in the US.


   By Susan C on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 03:41 pm: Edit Post

Okay-I ordered so fast I didn't read and ordered the paperback, but I'd rather have a paperback than no back at all. I will end up with a new hardback one way or another (I may have friends overseas buy it for me).


   By Mark Timmony on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 06:37 pm: Edit Post

Janny is correct in saying that most Bookstores in Australia will only carry the Trade Paperback edition. Specialty stores like Galaxy and a handful of others will (if possible) get the Hardcover also, unless this run is much smaller than previous HB runs for Janny's work.


   By Brian Uri! on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 07:38 pm: Edit Post

I am another that would appreciate a link to an "official" hardcover ordering location once details are set.

I would also be glad to e-mail, phone, dance for publishers/Presidents/etc in the States to get it published here! :-)


   By skeoke on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 08:20 pm: Edit Post

Very sad!

I loved the MM version of TK, very well done, I was really looking forward to the next one being the same!


   By Laneth Shadow-Walker on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 08:52 pm: Edit Post

Does this mean that the American cover art could change, depending on the new publishers' views?

This could completely change the way the series is viewed.

I absolutely love the UK covers, but would die to get my hands on the US pub ones with the characters on the front.

That's what I loved about the Cycle of Fire trilogy - Janny's interpretation of her character in art and word meld within my mind as I read and I use her painted imagery to assist my internal view of the worlds...

My sympathy to the US readers who aren't able to order from overseas...


   By HJ on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 04:41 am: Edit Post

So sorry about MM, Janny. It must be really disappointing for you and for Stephe.


   By Angus on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 08:43 am: Edit Post

Laneth:

FYI, and for North America, US readers, and Canadian ones for that matter (please forgive my unbridled nationalism), can easily pre-order the trade paperback from any UK on-line bookseller, such as amazon.co.uk.

It's the darn hardcover that is still in its ethereal form and cannot yet be pre-ordered.

And now, there is not even a North American publisher. I still find this baffling, because if Janny's books received some kind of marketing support here in NA, the sheer beauty of this series would put sales through the roof! The Wars of Light and Shadow is a serious work of epic fantasy dealing with major moralistic themes (does anyone NOT see the parallels between George Bush's War on Terror and Lysaer's Alliance of Light?), that exposes the evil of the winner writing history (with the major, notable exception of WW II), the terrible consequences of blinded loyalty to a cause or person, and the failure of the ends justifying the means. They never do (down with Guantanamo!).

Not to start a debate, but the Wars of Light and Shadow are easily as good as or better than the Wheel of Time, and those books are everywhere here in NA. They are always in the bargain bin (as first prints, no less) about 8 months after relase, because the publisher prints too many. And I can think of a lot of the boring, sword-and-sorcery knock-off series, which I will not mention by name, that do get publishing/marketing support. I read that stuff twenty-five years ago, when it was the only fantasy around, and it is still being produced, and it is worse than ever. It's good when you are 13, but when you are approaching 40, you want something a little deeper. I am sorry, but this makes me angry, as the big publishing houses think they know what we want, and they continually get it wrong, just like Hollywood.

Okay (pant, pant), I'm done my rant now (pant, pant).

I too, am disappointed about MM. They produced a quality book.

As you can tell from my postings on the new cover art, I prefer the UK covers, as a North American. It's interesting to see the different perspectives that art can engender. Both types of covers are wonderful artwork, but evoke different things in different people.