Child of Prophecy

Janny Wurts Chat Area: Other books and Short Stories: Child of Prophecy
   By Trys on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 08:44 am: Edit Post

My copy of Masters and Fantasy has been shipped and will likely be delivered tomorrow.


I had to do a double-take on your date. That's July 1, 2004, yes? (We Americans format dates mm/dd/yy and try not to post dates as numbers as a result.:-))

That is the same date as it comes out in the US.

   By Auna on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 02:57 pm: Edit Post

I'm all set to stalk the stores July 1 :-)

   By demi on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 08:10 am: Edit Post

Well I read the story Janny. Nicely done. Gives some insight into the world of Athera. I really, really liked it. For those who haven't read it it will alleviate part of your thirst for "traitor's knot".

   By Susan on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 08:36 am: Edit Post

I'm so jealous!! Mine isn't supposed to ship until tomorrow. This site makes the wait harder. It would be easier to just forget for the year or so between books, but not nearly as much fun!!

   By Janny Wurts on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 10:34 am: Edit Post

Whoop - yippie, first report (and a nice one)
Happy dance...(and thank you Demi)

Got to see some stuff you didn't expect, eh?

It was fun, how this story strung itself into the existing material and even, bounced threads of itself into Stormed Fortress...absolutely, the series reads fine, without it. But with it, you get another facet of insight, hindsight, and foreshadowing.

   By Auna on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 04:43 pm: Edit Post

I'm stalking the store after work... can't wait! Just a few ... more... hours....

   By Demi on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 06:55 pm: Edit Post

I do have to say that when I got to the last page of the story I was stunned not to find extra pages. It could so easily be an amazing book all by itself. Aww man... it's alright just five more months.

   By Auna on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 07:44 pm: Edit Post

Woot, off to nab it!

   By Auna on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 12:12 pm: Edit Post

I started off with good intentions and read the first two stories before willpower crumbled and I skipped to read Child of Prophecy, and wow, what a breathtaker! That was a very awesome story and very moving. You might want to save it for last so you can enjoy the other stories more since this one will really grab you emotionally.

I'm very thankful this book was mentioned here since Borders only had one copy stuffed in their compilation section instead of front and center as a new release. Pttthttt!

   By Hannah on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 09:09 pm: Edit Post

I plonked down and read it before I could even get it out of Barnes and Noble. It rocked. Verily.


Seriously, ahoy!

Okay, it took every iota of willpower I posessed (which is why I'm sitting here eating french fries right now--demned carbs)to not skip to the end of the story and see what the import of it all was. I'm glad that I just let it flow. When I opened the book to the proper place, I was expecting that kind of newness of when you first start a new story, but as I read further, and places were mentioned that were so familiar (Innish, Selkwood, Sanpashir), it was just really comfortable and happifying. Though I still kept wanting to flip to the map in the front of the book or the glossary that was not there.

Fascinating stuff. Really could be a sweet book of its own merit. The exploits of Dari s'Ahelas would be an awesome prequel. The mentions of Ciladis' six colleagues being.. colleagues, was the ultimate tempting tease. I'd give up a month of Internet to read a single scene with the F7 gathered in one room interacting. And maybe with a few royal lines thrown in there, too, for color. Well, that's neither here nor there.

Ciladis himself, woot! Janny, do you realize that in the version I was reading, when Ciladis appears and we realize that it is a Fellowship Sorcerer, the layout of the book is such that at the bottom of one page it pretty much says "You can call me..." and then I had to curse and fumble and very near tear the page out trying to turn it fast enough to confirm who it was. "...Ciladis."

Well, while reading the book I was able to forget I was sitting in the middle of a busy book store. Halfway through I realized I was experiencing this sense of dread that stemmed from the urgency of the characters as the Mistwraith crawled across the continent, and this feeling that I was going to walk outside and see this horrible looming mist bank on the horizon. I really picked up this vibe of impending doom, it made the story that much more important.

I liked the ending, because I was allowed to remember what else we knew about Dari. Going to Althain to learn a bit. And eventually she does go through the Gate, and just the import of those characters' lives at that time.

Random aside, because someone had mentioned about the Sunchildren being gone from Selkwood (I think). We know next to nothing about Sunchildren, except that they're smaller than humans. At least that's all I can remember reading, and that just from Sethvir drinking from a wee-ish teacup that had been turned for a Sunchildren's proportions. I don't remember much other than that (but I know vaguely recall maybe something further that Asandir recounted in CotM). Anyhow, my point is that I can't wait to learn more. They seem so mysterious and unique to Athera.

It was very very satisfying. I may survive a few more months closer to Traitors Knot after all.

/fangirl euphoria

   By Auna on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 01:51 am: Edit Post

I've reread it twice more now. I know exactly how you feel Hannah, I would love to read more stories in this time period. I was aching for more!

   By Izzy on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 08:17 pm: Edit Post

I've done some ringing around...

A&R (Angus and Robertson) have it listed as a new release, but don't have an Australian distributor listed. And their website mentions that it will be shipped from the US.

Janny, do you know if the book was supposed to be published in Australia at the same time as the UK? And if so, who by? I believe most of your work comes via Harper and Collins, but seeing as this is a compilation... /shrug

Either way, I'm ordering it via Amazaon, so it should arrive in a few days.



   By Janny Wurts on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 10:14 am: Edit Post

This book was published in the US by Baen Books, has many authors in it - and is distrubuted to the UK, not published there.

Therefore it should be "available" but not necessarily shelved.

Listed under Bulletins/Releases is the distribution information, if you need it.

   By Tamas on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 05:38 am: Edit Post

Great story! Well done!

   By Mark Timmony on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 08:26 pm: Edit Post

Izzy, Galaxy Bookshop in Sydney have it in stock.

We do mail order.

The book is retailing (Aussie dollars) at $54.00, postage and handling is another $5.00 (within Australia).

You can order it online at or over the phone (business hours) 02-9267-7222

   By Izzy on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:12 am: Edit Post

Unfortunately I had already ordered it via Amazon Mark. However, I'll definitely look you up for any other bits and pieces I might want to buy.

At around US$33 for the book and postage, that puts your price in the same area, and it would also have meant I would have had it quicker :-)



   By Kam on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 12:09 am: Edit Post


Mark: you work in Galaxy in Sydney? This is the one in the city, no? I was there the other day. :P

Like everyone else, I thought it could've been a lot longer. But it's still perfect the way it is.
I really loved how we learnt more about Dari - from the way the story ended, it sorta sounds like she grew up in Althain Tower. Now that would be super cute. The Fellowship and this rather cheeky little girl (if I recall what Sethvir said about her)...

   By Auna on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 07:12 am: Edit Post

Not longer.. just need to beg Janny to write more stories and flesh that all out! ;)

   By Mark Timmony on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 06:38 pm: Edit Post

Hey Kam,

Yep I work in Galaxy Bookshop in the city - the one and only!

   By skeoke on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 08:38 pm: Edit Post

Finally read the story.

[What took me so long? What was I thinking? --
Oh, yeah. To do list was so long I stopped looking at it...]

Great story. Raised more questions than it answered. A good thing.

- Is Davien still a colleague at this time?
- What does 'battling' the Mistwraith look like? How are people dying? Why are all the Sorcerers, Kings, heirs, and Paravians not able to handle what two miscreants, a Sorcerer (or three), and a Paravian tower able to handle(ish) 500 years later?
- Who are the desert folk? Where did the Mother Dark religion come from? Where do they sit in the scheme of things vis-a-vis clans and Paravians?
- So what happens when a cathdein's line and a royal line are joined (aside from our two miscreants)? And, I forgot, did that cathdein go with that king?

Just about to begin my pre-TK reread, maybe some of my questions are already answered and I just don't realize it yet. What are your opinions?


Aside - Loved the St. Vidicon story, too.

   By Janny Wurts on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 03:51 pm: Edit Post

Some of the answers you'll find in your re-read. Some are inclusive, if you dig into the glossary.

Some, assuredly, are forthcoming, and soon; a few leads will spring forth in Stormed Fortress (bits that are already set into draft)

No - on the caithdein attached to Shand's king - the one referenced was sworn to Melhalla.

I need a gag, I think. There is SO much exciting stuff yet to be fully uncloaked, that this short story sketches the snapshot peek into the past, leading into major league story threads for the larger series.

Janny, sitting on twitchy hands. This answer, not really an a not really directly asked question. (grin)

You'll see tie-ins to this material, retrospectively, and also, in Traitor's Knot, and Stormed Fortress. Including it into the existing material assuredly will lend another angle, and edge. What's here will be referenced, but NOT repeated, precisely. It's another little mosaic bit, that will flesh out the depth of the whole cloth.

   By skeoke on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 05:23 pm: Edit Post

I don't know how you keep quiet! I'd never be able to!!

And, no, no directly directed questions. Why spoil the fun?

I think the Melhalla/Shand cathdein/king link is far more interesting than a Shand/Shand child.

Hee, hee. How fun is this?!

Now, if I can only keep all my questions in mind while I reread!

Thanks, Janny.

For great stories.

and for the answer/non-answer.

   By skeoke on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 06:52 pm: Edit Post

chirrup, chirrup




   By Annette on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 04:37 pm: Edit Post

ok, I have a question.
SPOILER's below:

If Meiglin's daughter is the son of the King of Shand and is also a s'Ahelas then she would be the ancestor to our favourite feuding siblings, yes? Then wouldn't that make Arithon and Lysaer the rightful rulers of Shand as well as the rulers of Tysan and Rathain? Can someone clear this up for me? Thanks.

   By skeoke on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 06:36 pm: Edit Post

The Caithdian of Shand seemed to take exception to that notion in the scene where he tried to scewer Arithon to "test" him.

The scene in question, I believe, is in WoV. Arithon was going [oh, what was his name - big guy] to ask for help in raiding the cattle from Lysaer's supply train and redistributing it to Arithon's allies.


BTW the rude noises above indicate crickets and frogs, my own version of the sound of silence or alone-ness. Sorry.

Gotta go. Elaira's just been put on probation for meeting with Arithon in a hayloft. Ah, the good ol'days.

   By Sarah on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 09:29 pm: Edit Post

The Caithdein of Shand is Erlien s'Taleyn actually I'm reading about that right now great timing :-)

At the council when he asks for their help in delaying Lysaers supply lines Erlien tells the elders that he was sure that Arithon did not come to claim loyalty for the distaff side of his parentage. One of the elders says that if he had he would have died there. Most of the comments by Erlien about the two families involve jokes about how the s'Ffalenn family breeds runts :-)

   By Blue on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 09:45 pm: Edit Post

Funny, isn't it, how that "runt" cut "big bad" Erlien down to size though, isn't it? Darn near literally, too. :-)

   By skeoke on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 07:16 pm: Edit Post

'Kay, so I've finished my re-read of CotM, and now have more questions than answers. Surprise. Can anyone help me??!

- as for Davien, unless the Fellowship took a generation or so to deal with him, he's already out. Got it. (Shoulda been obvious, actually.)

- still don't get "battling" the Mistwraith. Arithon feels pressure against his inner mind, and feels his defense spells torn asunder as fast as he can cast them. He sees the individual wraiths attacking him. Lysaer just goes lights out. None of the humans at the time of the mistwraiths intrusion were mage trained, so did they just go lights permanently out? Did any of them see the individual wraiths and just not survive to tell of it? They must have had some sort of defense plan to at least try to implement, what could that have been? Stay close to a Sorcerer burning reckless power? I'm guessing that the king's regalia/jewels played a part, but beyond that ...
(So, what obvious bit/bits did I miss?)

- no mention of the desert tribes, yet.

- nor any mention of clan bloodlines, and as I know is coming, keeping them "pure"

Thanks for any insights.

   By skeoke on Friday, October 15, 2004 - 05:48 pm: Edit Post

'Kay. So, Sethvir just escaped from the river pebble that he escaped into to avoid possession from Kharadmon's nine visitors from the frosty realms beyond the void of space.

- these free wraiths attack and vie for possession of the Seven, ignoring the rest of Athera. Would the remainder of the hoard also care more about ruining the Seven?

- the wraiths "devour the identity" then subsume and pervert the individual into its vastness which hungers to eliminate all life.

- only Paravian wards are proof against the wraiths. When the Paravians abandoned the field at Earle the defenses collapsed.

- so, fighting the wraiths is more than just a fight against possession, it is a fight to retain selfhood, individuality. [Alright, that's a fine point.]

* Nope. I still don't get what battling the Mistwraith at Earle would've looked like. I'll keep reading.

(Though, ouch, Medlir is gone. Halliron is gone. Elaira has left Merior. And Vastmark and the Havens loom.)

skeoke, the slow.

   By Trys on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 11:43 am: Edit Post

The paperback edition of Masters of Fantasy is scheduled for release in January 2006.


   By Deborah Eddy on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 09:15 am: Edit Post

I finally managed to track down a copy of this volume and so far 'Child of Prophecy' is the only story I've read in it (book arrived on my desk first thing this morning at work!) so have caught up a little bit.

An entire volume on Dari would make absolutely fascinating reading - she would definitely be a very very good character to learn more about. There's hints and hints but not enough detail here about her!

Meiglin sounds so sweet and gentle, in comparison with her daughter and her ultimate descendants! And her mysterious lover - is his first name ever given at all?

Oh well, will keep eyes peeled when doing next re-read of WOLAS...


   By Janny Wurts on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 11:28 am: Edit Post

Hi Deborah -

Welcome here - glad you liked the story! It does tend to fill in some gaps, and leave a piquant opening for more....I really want to do a side volume of backstories, and not in the too distant future..

To answer, the lover's name is in archives. It is also in Archives at Althain Tower. never know, it could indeed crop up!

   By neil on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 07:56 am: Edit Post


Well kind of.... was curious to see that the centaurs escorted the unicorns when the unicorns travelling...

The desert people could spot a clan person easily(?) and count silence sacred...

Curious also that the Althain guardian at the time "clocked" any serious intent(?) - would the guardian always have been the same centaur?

Add to that a TK reference to "tracks"...

   By Janny Wurts on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 05:23 pm: Edit Post

THIS STORY IS NOW AVAILABLE AT THE PARAVIA STORE in e formats! Dive in.... roducts_id=150

   By Annette on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 06:01 pm: Edit Post

Thanks Janny, dived in and grabbed it.

   By john herrmann on Tuesday, April 24, 2018 - 11:03 am: Edit Post


I've also been curious about the original battle with the mistwraith. Based on Traith's injuries the fellowship knew there was more going on than appeared, but they didn't seem to have any idea that the mist held actual wraiths seeking to possess until the brothers were at Ithamon and were attacked by the wraiths.

I had originally thought all the battles at that time were between the rebellion, instigated by Davien, and the clans, but after re-reading Child of Prophecy and reading this line, "...My husband was an old-blood clansman. Egan s'Deineval. He died at Earle, fighting the Mistwraith at the right hand of his king."

As a mist blowing through and blocking out the sun, what were normal clan fighters able to do to actually fight the mistwraith? and how were they dying?

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