Publication date?

Janny Wurts Chat Area: Arc 4: Sword of the Canon: Initiate's Trial: Publication date?

   By Hunter on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 05:49 am: Edit Post

If they are four separate maps, then I would think they should be on four separate pages, no?

Just re-reading Ch 1 again - reading Morriel/Selidie getting a good comeuppance from Asandir never grows old


   By Annette on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 06:10 am: Edit Post

Unfortunately ebooks do graphics a bit different to the real books, too miserable to devote a whole page to one picture, or at least the ones I have never do. :-(

Did the kindle version have all 4 pasted together on the one page?

Edit - Downloaded the sample, looks normal, 2 pages to one.


   By max on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 07:10 am: Edit Post

do we get a cover art with kindle?? I sure would miss the cover art if I had a kindle. I would also miss the comfort of holding a book


   By Sleo on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 07:19 am: Edit Post

I don't know about the kindle, but the Kobo has the cover art and it's beautiful on my computer, but loaded on my Nook is in black and white, so it looses something.

The book pages with the maps has them jammed together also. :-( Stupid publishers.


   By Annette on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 07:28 am: Edit Post

Actually Initiate's Trial was the first in the series to get the cover art as part of the kindle version. Better late than never I suppose.

Edit - I tell a lie, the updated Ships of Merior that vanished for a while also came with cover art.


   By Clansman on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 08:06 am: Edit Post

The book was waiting on my desk this morning. Book Depository is a good outfit.

And thank you, Janny.:-)


   By Brian Uri! on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 09:35 am: Edit Post

A physical copy is coming too, but I have to admit that it's nice to wake up in the morning and have the Kindle version ready to read!


   By Trys on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 10:34 am: Edit Post

Kindle version has a black and white version of the cover.


   By Annette on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 01:34 pm: Edit Post

Not on the PC it is not, the same kindle file has a full colour cover. The little gadget you are using only sees black and white most likely.


   By Hunter on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 05:42 pm: Edit Post

The Kindle PC version has a very nice colour graphic of the cover as Annette says.

The Kindle version has two maps per page after the overall map.


   By Annette on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 06:15 pm: Edit Post

Actually in all the real books the big map is spread over 2 pages so the maps have not really been done any differently.


   By Trys on Friday, October 28, 2011 - 07:14 am: Edit Post

The color graphic means it will appear in color on the Kindle Fire.


   By Trys on Friday, October 28, 2011 - 11:02 am: Edit Post

I have my hardcopy of the book and the maps are buried in the binding of the book giving the impression that they are not separate maps but actually one map. So I can't blame the people who produced the Kindle version.


   By Annette on Friday, October 28, 2011 - 04:57 pm: Edit Post

For Destiny's Conflict I am forgetting about supporting Australian book sellers, seems we might not even have the book on the Australian release day down here in Tasmania. Glad I brought the Kobo version. Next time I will just order from the Book Depository. :-(


   By David Cornelson on Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 09:25 pm: Edit Post

Got my book from Book Depository today (Chicago-USA). Already started my second read on the Kindle, but will finish it with the hardcover.

Yes, I bought Initiate's Trial in three forms (Kobo, Kindle, Hardcover).

I be lovin' me some Janny (in a author/reader/friend) kind of way.

David C.


   By Trys on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 08:47 am: Edit Post

I woke up to an e-mail from Amazon.com this morning. The expected date of Initiate's Trial hardcover has been moved from January 4, 2012 to November 30, 2011. Just for clarity's sake, this is the release in the US... how's that for a Thanksgiving surprise?


   By Annette on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 10:20 am: Edit Post

Maybe they heard how well it was selling in the UK and thought they better get it sooner, Nov 30th is not too long a wait.

I will die of old age before Fishpond work out how to obtain the hardback version, they have worked out yet again they do not have a supplier for the book and are about to give yet another false date they expect to have it by. Still trying to get the order cancelled. Strangely enough they actually let me cancel the audio book, even though they still insist they are going to dispatch it on the 8th Dec. Bit disappointed Harper Collins did not do the audio version. :-(


   By Jeff on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 11:28 am: Edit Post

I just saw the email too. Pleasant surprise!


   By Andrew Ginever on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 02:08 pm: Edit Post

Annette, Fishpond sent me an email telling me my hardback had arrived from their UK supplier, been packed on the 22nd, and is on its way to me from their distribution center with an expected ETA sometime between today and the 28th (and since it's in transit I can't cancel my order now). Given the "up to 10 days delivery from us to you" I would've thought this was being fulfilled from Sydney, not Auckland, so they should've had stock on hand to fulfil yours too. Will be interesting to see if it turns up in the next few days.


   By Annette on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 02:51 pm: Edit Post

The New Zealand staff must be smarter, the Australian ones have simply said there is a delay and they are checking with their supplier. That came up yesterday, so it seems we are just going to get yet another guess at a dispatch date. There is no excuse for not having a supplier after all this time. I would suspect the Australian Fishpond is determined they are going to get it from a USA supplier, despite them saying they are getting it from the UK.


   By Andrew Ginever on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 03:50 pm: Edit Post

Annette, sorry you're still having problems.
My copy has just been delivered. According to the customs declaration on the label it came direct from the UK, NZ postage paid (don't know how that works, but it did!). Also according to the customs declaration it was dispatched on the 11th via airmail, so I don't know what to make of Fishpond's emails, availability and dates! Given that they just supplied me, I would think they should have stock available to fulfil your order as well (actual dispatch might depend how many other orders they have in between?). I would still expect them to be able to source you a copy from their stocks within the next few days.


   By Annette on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 01:40 am: Edit Post

I am not fussed, the Book Depository sent mine last week and so my hardback is not far away. I just like giving Fishpond a hard time for running such a lousy business. If I manage to get one refund out of them I will be happy enough to chalk the loss of the hardback up to experience. They ever actually send it it will make a nice Christmas present, if it actually manages to arrive by Christmas. They have again said they cannot give me a refund, because it is already sent from the supplier, yet they will not even give an estimated dispatch date now. Still delayed, they are still looking into it, with their eyes closed no doubt.


   By Trys on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 07:53 am: Edit Post

I got the "Initiate's Trial has shipped" e-mail from Amazon.com this morning.


   By Sleo on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 11:38 am: Edit Post

Yay! Annette, your travails with this Fishpond place are truly astounding.


   By Annette on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 05:42 pm: Edit Post

Well despite the fact Fishpond are still saying the book is delayed and they are looking into it, the book just arrived here. So even though Fishpond might have no idea what they are doing they actually eventually delivered the book. No sign of the refund for the audio book but I expect it will turn up eventually. Much happier with the map in hardback version. :-)


   By Janny Wurts on Friday, December 02, 2011 - 03:03 pm: Edit Post

I have done some checking with the 'release' date thing here in the USA, and here are the straight answers: Initiate's Trial will be fully available through the usual outlets - bookshops, etc - in January 2012.

This is US only - everywhere else, I believe the book is in full distribution.

The 'listing' that is difficult to find on Amazon.com, just now, is a 'bleed through' from Amazon in Britain. Come January, the listing will shift - to what you usually expect, with hardback and trade paperback coming up without any dodging to find them.

I am sorry for the confusion, and for the seeming shifts in listing - it's all to do with the uneven nature of global commerce.

There is no preference, here, (on my part) for how readers buy their copies. Take the route that is most convenient for you - I am just trying to sort the confusion and give you direct answers.

Alot of this is new to me, too. I've never seen such a gray area when it came to a release date - but that fixed moment seems to be in flux due to the handling of books in these times.

Thanks to all of you who have reported sightings, bought copies, posted feedback, reviews and ratings. The support is most MOST welcome - with two more books (and TRUST ME) the very best of the series YET TO COME, your enthusiasm, sharp eyes, and unflagging interest are a godsend.

No kidding. If wishes were horses - grin - I would have a BIG PARTY HERE for the lot of you, and pay for the plane tickets to boot!!!

You betcha if I had the sort of following Certain Fantasy Series have earned - I'd do this just for the lark of it.

You people are THE BEST!


   By Annette on Friday, December 02, 2011 - 05:02 pm: Edit Post

The listing on Amazon that is available is the hardback version

A new book in the series is all this fan needs as a reward. :-)


   By Nurgle on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 07:50 am: Edit Post

For those Aussies sick of being ripped off on hardcover prices, be sure to grab it from UK Book Depository, got mine pretty quickly, and have put my life aside for a day to sit back and enjoy the read.


   By Janny Wurts on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 02:06 pm: Edit Post

It's a new year, and I hope everyone had a fabulous holiday, sparkling with joy and good things.

I have been TRYING to find a sneak peek for the book in progress - but - argh!!!!- nearly everything would spoil SOMETHING in Initiate's Trial.

Sooo - who's going to be FIRST to spot Initiate's Trial on the bookshelves in the USA, and how many of you have READ IT (grin) so that I can risk putting a little preview up, just to get you stoked?


   By Paige Madison on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 02:11 pm: Edit Post

I'm in the US, and I've already read Initiate's Trial. I think if you mark it appropriately with spoiler warnings and throw it in the Destiny's Conflict section then you're covered.


   By Annette on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 06:43 am: Edit Post

Janny, are we getting a scene with Jeynsa and Sevrand you could use? I do not mind waiting till it is written, if you cannot find anything yet.


Or if you want to get us excited about something that is not going to spoil anything, a sneak peek at that artwork you were originally planning to do for the USA Stormed Fortress Cover would be nice. :-)


   By Janny Wurts on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 07:28 pm: Edit Post

*polite cough* - I will not post anything, sneak preview-wize for Destiny's Conflict, that DARES hint at a spoiler, even a marked spoiler - before USA readers who do not use a 'device' have a crack at getting the book...soooo - who's seen the actual BOOK on the shelf, or received a copy ordered from the USA after the January on sale here?

When I know the book's appeared, I'll see what pages MIGHT be posted as a teaser....


   By Clansman on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 07:34 pm: Edit Post

I don't know if this counts, but I believe Canada is on the same schedule as the US. However, I could be wrong.

I saw Initiate's Trial, in all of its glory, sitting on the shelf of Chapters in Ottawa, Ontario Canada, a mere one hour drive from the US border, on January 6, 2012, along with most of the other books in the series.

A sight that I was very glad to see, I might add.


   By Janny Wurts on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 10:43 am: Edit Post

Great to hear that Canada has saddled up. Now awaiting a sighting or purchase report from the shelves in the USA...


   By Sleo on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 12:12 pm: Edit Post

I bought it from Barnes & Noble in the US!


   By Janny Wurts on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 01:10 pm: Edit Post

In hardback or trade paper from the SHELF of a brick and mortar store, not an online order? (This is to establish equal opportunity for all readers getting their hands on the book, not to be difficult and tease this out.) I wish to be certain the US distribution is THERE, and everyone has their shot before I post ANYTHING that could be remotely termed 'spoiler' for the finish of the current release.

Even marked as spoiler with a warning, I insist...:-)


   By Walt on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 08:37 am: Edit Post

Sleo has given me hope... There are three B&N's on the way home from work. I think I'll hit them all tonight!


   By David Cornelson on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 03:41 pm: Edit Post

For US folks:

There's a little trick to see if BN has a local copy...it doesn't always show as a link on the product page, but the process is always there.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/store.asp?EAN=9780007362127&distance =0&zipcode=10010&x=0&y=0

If you use this link and change the zipcode value, you can see if it's in stock nearby.

I tried a bunch of zip codes and was unable to find any in-stock copies.

David C.


   By Annette on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 05:24 pm: Edit Post

Does the USA have any sci-fi/fantasy specialist bookshops? I have not seen Initiate's Trial for sale in any of the big bookshops in my area (Australia), although they could order it in if asked. Certainly none of the big retailers down my end of Tasmania have it, and they sell the most books here. Only Ellis Hawker seems to have the book, a tiny specialist bookshop. I have not checked, but I suspect they would be sold out by now, I pre-ordered mine, and they did not seem to get a lot of books in. The online retailers out this way seem to send the book straight from their supplier.


   By BillBob on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 09:47 pm: Edit Post

Just checked the local B&N using the trick above with the zip code and it is listed as Out of Stock.


   By Janny Wurts on Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 01:29 pm: Edit Post

I have checked with distribution in Chicago, and the book should be out there. Hopefully someone will sight it, or an Out of Stock will turn into a re-stock, very soon.


   By Annette on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 - 08:40 pm: Edit Post

My mass market version was dispatched today from the UK and should be paddling its heart out to arrive in Australia hopefully next week.


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