Archive through October 16, 2011

Janny Wurts Chat Area: Arc 4: Sword of the Canon: Initiate's Trial: Publication date?: Archive through October 16, 2011
   By Trys on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 09:54 am: Edit Post lists the HC as Nov 27, 2011 and the PB as Oct 27 lists the HC as Oct 27, 2011 and PB as '2010'.

   By Daryl Bamforth on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 09:55 am: Edit Post _2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1306507936&sr=1-2

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# Hardcover: 544 pages
# Publisher: Harper Voyager; Library ed edition (27 Nov 2011)

   By Clansman on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 10:58 am: Edit Post (Canada) lists the paperback as August 26, 2011, and the hardcover as November 26, 2011.

If I pre-order from the Canuck amazon, I'll have the rest of you beat by two whole months!!! (yeah, right. And there's some swampland in Florida going reeeeeeal cheap).

   By Janny Wurts on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 01:33 pm: Edit Post

Well - this whole 'listing' thing has me pulling my hair....I have NO idea. So much false information and conflicting information seems to be floating about.

If ANY dates have been changed from what I was first told, I am not in the loop.

I will send an e mail to my editor and request a clarification...

   By Daryl Bamforth on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 02:50 pm: Edit Post

You know you would get bored and give up if it was all too easy :P

   By Annette on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 04:17 pm: Edit Post

Could have sworn Booktopia had the trade paperback up for the 28th Oct, but they have removed it now. Fishpond has it for 27th Oct, that was where I first noticed the altered stormed fortress cover.

And of course they very annoying say it is the fourth and final story arc. They liked both blurbs for the book so just to please everyone, use both. They seem hopeful and have also reserved space for the eBook and Audio Book formats as well.

I just assumed everyone Harper Collins like would get it on the 27th and the Americans and everyone else would wait till it was imported by another publisher. The actual physical bookshops at least down this end of Australia do not yet have it on their systems, will not till around August, be interesting to see what date they receive from the publisher. I have not seen Initiate's Trial on the Australian Harper Collins site yet.

   By Annette on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 04:27 pm: Edit Post

Angus & Robertson have it listed for 1st Jan 2012, again using the altered Stormed Fortress cover. But their very famous chain of stores will probably not even exist by Oct, they have till September to find a buyer or go out of business, most stores will not last till September. irst-book-of-sword-of-the-canon/3146/

They at least edited the original blurb to be less of a spoiler.

   By Hunter on Sunday, May 29, 2011 - 06:39 pm: Edit Post

I kept having this image of Janny doing a Mr. Incredible impersonation (after multiple "are we there yet?" questions..) - "It'll get released WHEN IT GET'S RELEASED!!"

A&R website seems to stop their blurb mid-sentence.

I do note as a side issue that Dymocks on line lists a lot of books as having the title "Alliance of Light". I do recall asking them to change these errors.. to no avail it seems.

   By Janny Wurts on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 11:03 am: Edit Post

Confirmed by the editorial desk:

OCT 27, 2011

Let's see if it gets sorted out.

   By Annette on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 07:08 pm: Edit Post

Thanks for trying to sort out the confusion with the dates Janny.

Hope fully when the Australian Harper Collins site puts their blurb for the book up they will not make the same mistake as the UK site. 17823

They should just change the discription to the fourth and most exciting story arc yet, instead of saying it is the final story arc. Cannot blame the retailers for saying it is the last arc, when the publisher gets it wrong. :-(

Considering we have so long to wait for all those mysteries to be explained in the final book, providing a full list for the series indicating how many are yet to come might be an idea. Then fans will know for sure and keep an eye out for the last book.

   By Daniela on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 10:16 am: Edit Post

When I prebought the book it said Oct 27 - now it is saying Jan 1. Did it get pushed back?

   By Daniela on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 10:19 am: Edit Post

Okay that is funny - right after I posted Amazon sent me a note saying the release date was pushed back so my book will be delivered later. Is that across the board? If I can get it earlier from another country I will consider cancelling this one.

   By David Cornelson on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 10:26 am: Edit Post

Looks like the Kindle edition is set for October 27, but the Hardcover is January 1. The Paperback is 2010, but has no exact date.

I would have ended up with both the Kindle and Hardcover anyway and prefer the Kindle nowadays, so for me, this isn't a terrible thing.

David C.

   By Sleo on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 10:31 am: Edit Post

I ordered mine from The Book Depository because it delivers worldwide free. It's in Britain and I live in the US. If you're in the US, the date has always been January, 2012. Amazon release dates are notoriously wrong.

I'd order it from The Book Depository if I were you.

   By John Parsons on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 10:33 am: Edit Post

Order date from is still showing end of October.

   By Brian Uri! on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 10:34 am: Edit Post

I just received the Amazon update on the Hardcover as well. The full text was:

Unfortunately, the release date for the item(s) listed below has changed, and we need to provide you with a new delivery estimate based on the new release date:

Janny Wurts "Initiate's Trial: First Book of the Sword of the Canon (The Wars of Light and Shadow series)"
Estimated arrival date: January 09 2012 - January 12 2012

   By David Cornelson on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 11:13 am: Edit Post

If the UK date holds, I'll switch my hardcover order to The Book Depository.


   By Trys on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 12:41 pm: Edit Post

I just ordered a copy from the Book Depository. Now we'll see if my credit card company slaps me with a foreign transaction fee (CitiCards do).

   By Joanne Tal on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 03:38 pm: Edit Post

Thankfully Amazon Uk is still the same date of October. Just a question which no doubt I'm asking and making myself look really dumb but I thought this was the penultimate book. I see there are 2 more arcs after this one. Not that I'm complaining obviously.

Janny how do you feel about this coming to an end relief or sadness.

   By mkchiu on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 07:33 pm: Edit Post

I wouldn't rely on the Book Depository's accuracy past next year. Amazon bought them around July 4th, so economies of scale should move the Book Depository onto the Amazon (UK) database relatively quickly.

   By Nikki Hayes on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 11:15 pm: Edit Post

I've been waiting for this book for so long and just wish the publishers and booksellers would get their asses in gear and pin it down to a correct date, I'm not prepared to preorder this early if its not likely to be despatched until January (I use Amazon UK). I'd also prefer the paperback edition as the rest of my collection is in paperback but not sure I'm prepared to wait that long, really don't want a book that long on Kindle as I only have the PC app rather than a proper ebook reader.

I'm getting fed up of these booksellers publishing supposed release dates, ordering the book only to get an email later saying "sorry we now have no idea when we will be able to send your book" :o(

   By Sleo on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 12:02 am: Edit Post

Janny says the UK date is solid at Oct. 27, even Amazon. I used the Book Depository for the free shipping. It's the US delivery that is slow, to get the books over here and in the hands of distributors and bookstores.

   By Trys on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 07:10 am: Edit Post

Here's something to consider about Book Depository. They don't wait to bill your credit card until they have the book in hand and ready to ship. They bill when you order. I can't say I like this policy.

   By Janny Wurts on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 08:25 am: Edit Post

Joanne Tal, you asked:

Arc IV (Sword of the Canon) consists of
Initiate's Trial
Destiny's Conflict (in progress)

The final arc, and final book, in one volume, will be Song of the Mysteries.

Which means, yes, two more to go, always planned that way. With all the books under contract, and the action exactly where it belongs, (into strong convergency/if not sliding into per-finale with the volume in progress) this is a fixed count to finish.

You are quite right - finishing this masterwork will close a chapter in my life - however, I will be celebrating and not sad! The finish will mark a huge achievement. And - I have LOTS of new ideas I want to get cracking and put out after this one!

On the pub date: I have no control over how stuff gets threaded through the system. Oct 27 is the 'on sale' date in the UK; how the books that are exported trickle down is strictly an internal matter.

I wish things would be streamlined (simultaneous) as in other books with more following - but to have this happen the books would have had to be off press 3 months EARLIER than your on sale date; and that would have made pub date FURTHER - folks, I am GRATEFUL! We have a publisher, we have a finished story, and the books are in the system.

For those who wait until the January release: we will restrict SPOILERS to a SPOILER TOPIC, and they will be marked. I would suggest that The Gryphon that Be create this topic a touch EARLY to give those of you who get your updates by e mail time to FIX YOUR PROFILES so you don't automatically get updates from that topic.

MORE: After Initiate's Trial releases, the topic for Destiny's Conflict will be UNLOCKED to allow for speculation threads. DEFINITELY adjust your profiles if you are not reading sharp off the mark, so you don't get blindsided by the new material.

I will be posting a Warning in that topic for Destiny's Conflict shortly, along with an update on the volume as it is in progress.

   By Sleo on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 09:55 am: Edit Post

Yes, Trys, they do charge you at the time of purchase, but now I know it's already paid for. :-)

   By Annette on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 08:32 pm: Edit Post

The Book Depository are very fast to post the books out though, I was impressed with their speedy delivery, strange system they have of sending each book of 8 ordered individually though. Australia has a hopeless postal service so the arrivals were spread over a week even though 7 of the books were sent on the same day. The 8th book that was sent the next day actually arrived before most of the others.

Looking forward to finally getting an update on Destiny's Conflict, I liked all those teasing little hints we got in the Initiate's Trial status topic. Janny is probably almost up to chapter 5 by now.

   By Nathan Kemp on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 06:42 am: Edit Post

Only two weeks to go now!!!!! I really am getting excited and am going to try to read slowly and enjoy every page, although my usual tendency is to storm through the story at a pace as I simply can not help myself.

I'm looking forward to discussing post-reading thoughts and impressions in a few weeks time.

Happy reading in advance everyone, and thanks to you as always Janny.

   By Sleo on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 08:27 am: Edit Post

OMG! You're right! Only two weeks! Whooppee!

   By Trys on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 10:39 am: Edit Post

I've created the Iniate's Trial top level Spoiler topic. I've also moved the Stormed Fortress spoiler discussions inside of the Stormed Fortress topic to keep things clean.

   By Hellcat on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 10:41 am: Edit Post

Two weeks! I still have most of TK and SF to get through on the re-read. Blimey. I need to read more.

   By Maggie on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 08:53 pm: Edit Post

So, I have a question I can't seem to figure out from any of the book buying webpages. Will I be able to buy an epub version of the book on the 27th if I'm in the US, or will I have to wait till the books actually get shipped in January?

Sorry if someone else already answered... But I couldn't find it!

   By Trys on Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 10:41 am: Edit Post

I received an e-mail from the Book Depository this morning regarding Initiate's Trial: "I am pleased to let you know that we have just received notification that your pre-ordered book has been made available by the publisher. This book will be dispatched to you in the next few days."


No official word on the eBook version. We'll just have to wait and see.


   By Sleo on Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 10:52 am: Edit Post

Me, too! I'm so excited!

   By David Cornelson on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 09:30 am: Edit Post

Finishing up a read through of all of the books...again. It always amazes me how much I have forgotten, but I also seem to rewrite entire scenes in my memory.

Stormed Fortress will be a tough act to follow. I rank it as one of the best Fantasy books ever written.

David C.

   By Sleo on Sunday, October 16, 2011 - 09:34 am: Edit Post

David, I just finished my reread last night and was in awe of all the things in Stormed Fortress that I either missed or had totally forgotten. Wow! Not to mention the other books, of course.