Archive through August 16, 2005

Janny Wurts Chat Area: Book Nook: Archive through August 16, 2005
   By Auna on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 03:41 pm: Edit Post

I broke down and bought/read Jordan's prequel - It doesn't require any knowledge of the existing series and gives you some some background into how the two main Aes Sedai got involved in the search and some of the troubles within the Aes Sedai. It's not required reading for the main series, but if you enjoy Jordan, it's something to read while waiting for his next book(s).

   By Cheryl Detmer on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 07:07 am: Edit Post

Thanks Auna, I wondered what those prequels were about and whether to beging there or with Eye of the World. I'm meeting him at Dragon Con and will bring two of my books for him to sign. It will be an honor to meet him even if I haven't read his whole series. I know he's a great writer and I enjoy Rand.

   By Richard on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 05:22 am: Edit Post

ok, take into account here I am currently being starved. Love books, and have read all the books of all the authors I like 3-8 times at this point.
I've usually read all the books mentioned here ... but Kate Elliot's Crown of Stars ... have I been missing something?

How good is this series compared to say Mercedes Lackey, Raymond Feist, J V Jones, Terry Goodkind, C.S. Friedman. I dont mention Janny as I'm pretty sure everyone here has already found your work! You are my favourite author .. so also being "enthusiastic" about your next release! :-)

P.S. If you are looking for another read ... one of my favourites is C.S. Friedman's Coldfire Trilogy.

   By Andy on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 08:58 am: Edit Post

If you like Janny, you'll definitely like Elliot. Although their writing styles are quite different, I find the two series have some similarities re politics, intrigue, cataclysm etc. Happy reading.

   By Nora on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 10:07 am: Edit Post

Opinions here:

Mercedes Lackey's stuff tends to be fairly light. Haven't read any of it in some time, so I'm sure she's written tons more, but I remember it as pretty straightforward. There are nods to complications, but not much. I'd put some of it into the YA fantasy category.

I read Terry Goodkind's _Wizard's First Rule_ and then wanted those hours of my life back. If you don't mind his hero being Mr. Objectivism, you might enjoy them. I haven't read any of the others, so your mileage may vary...

   By sheena on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 10:17 am: Edit Post

Richard have you read the 'wheel of Time ' series- Robert Jordan.? Also excellent. The other excellent series is George RR martin's -first in that series is A game of Kings.

   By Trys on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 10:22 am: Edit Post


If you like Janny, you'll definitely like Elliot.

Not necessarily. And that's all I'll say.

   By Frank T Davis on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 10:27 am: Edit Post

I put Kate Elliot's work on par with the authors you mention. To date her "Crown of Stars" series has 5 volumes. They are well written and they tend to be long, e.g., volume 5 has 903 pages. You should also consider reading "The Golden Key", written by Kate, Melanie Rawn and Jennifer Roberson. After reading this, read the works of Melanie Rawn and that of Jennifer Roberson. They each have lengthy series that are very enjoyable and they have been compoleted. NO waiting!

   By Janny Wurts on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 12:11 pm: Edit Post

Welcome Here, Eve

I too liked Friedman's Coldfire trilogy but it took twice or three times for me to get over the hump - the beginning's SO harsh....worth the read as you see where she's taking it....definitely. But that beginning, steel your stomach....hang on to your heart, the tale is NOT without heart....she did as she did for a reason.

   By Trys on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 01:41 pm: Edit Post

Golden Key was excellent, especially the part written by Jennifer Roberson (this book has three distinct sections each section written by one of the authors, rather than a collaborative effort on the entire book). I also recommend anything by Jennifer, from her Cheysuli books to the Del & Tiger books to her stand alone romantic histories (Lady of the Glen and Lady of Sherwood.


   By Sandtiger on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 03:04 pm: Edit Post

I also recommend Jennifer Roberson. :-) I's suggest starting with the books about Sandtiger and Del.

Hmm. I wonder why? ::grin::


   By Annettevk on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 07:19 pm: Edit Post

It's interesting. You would think that the way we all feel (for the most part) about Janny's books we would have more similar tastes in other books but I don't find that much at all. People have a lot of different opinions on the same books. For instance I love the Terry Goodkind books, but don't like George R. Martins, and I did start liking the Robert Jordan but don't any more (I won't go into my reasons as this is not the place to complain about other author's books) I am just mentioning it to make my point. I never much got inot Jennifer Roberson either but I did like the Coldfire Trilogy. (rubs chin) verrrry intersting.

   By Lyssabits on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 11:18 pm: Edit Post

I dunno about Melanie Rawn's stuff being completed. I mean, some of her series are (and they're *fabulous*) but I don't think she ever finished the Exiles series. Which has been in the works an awfully long time.

I'm with you on RR Martin, Annette. ;) My co-worker and I argue frequently over whether that series is good or not. The people who like him love him, and the people who don't like him can't understand why anyone would.

Elliot, well, she's got some interesting books there. I've never read a book before where there are parts of a story that I dislike so much mixed equally in with parts I *love*. With any long book you're going to have bits that you find less interesting than others, but usually I don't have such strongly divergant reactions. However, the parts that are good are just too good for me to put the series away. And she just put out the next installment, which I am anxiously waiting for my sister to finish.

Jordan, well, I've already made my feelings about Jordan known. *weeps*

I'm surprised that with all the other authors, no one's mentioned (or maybe I just missed it) Michelle West. She's almost incomprehensible at times, but her worlds are so completely entrancing and interesting that you tend to forgive her for not properly indicating who is speaking in her dialogue. And while I think it's good that authors don't spell everything out for you, I think sometimes she forgets that she hasn't told her readers some crucial bits of information. Still, I think well worth the read.

   By Starstorm on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 09:40 pm: Edit Post

Lyssabits, you're right about Rawn's "Exiles" trilogy still being unfinished. The last comment she posted on her site's board a few weeks ago was that she was currently working on the rewrite to an unrelated book that she completed earlier this year, and that she hadn't yet started The Captal's Tower... though she has mentioned it might be what she works on next.

Richard, I'll add my .02 in favor of Kate Elliott. I've enjoyed both her Jaran series (SF, but with a Fantasy feel for the most part) and Crown of Stars series very much. She's one of the few authors I buy immediately in hardcover... and just started on book six of that series last night :-)

Rawn and Roberson are also highly recommended, as are a couple of other authors I count among my favorites with Janny... Carol Berg, Lois McMaster Bujold, Guy Gavriel Kay, and Robin Hobb.

   By Richard on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 06:25 am: Edit Post

Thanks all, appreciate the input.

The over all impression is I should buy Kate Elliott and find out for myself! ... but it is worth buying! :-) I'll do that ... long books suit me!

Janny, yep, the Coldfire Trilogy starts VERY harshly. The thing I liked most about the series is the fact it goes away from "white" good guys! Kind of what I like about Arithon ... he is both black and white! Human!

P.S. Trudi Canavan is also worth considering. She has a very interesting premise to her books. Not a favourite ... but VERY readible

   By Frank T Davis on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 09:22 am: Edit Post

When did Elliot's "Crown of Stars" book six release? Is book six the final book in the series?

   By Hunter on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 01:04 pm: Edit Post

This is from Kate Elliot's home page:

Volume Six, In The Ruins, is scheduled for publication in both the USA (DAW Books) and UK (Orbit Books) in early August 2005. Volume Seven, Crown of Stars, is probably (but not quite definitely) scheduled for publication in February 2006 (if not February 2006, it will be very close to that date).

   By Auna on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 03:29 pm: Edit Post

I actually don't find it surprising that people who all enjoy Janny's stuff don't like all the same other authors. If every author wrote exactly like Janny, then I'd expect us all to like them all. However, each of the authors listed here has a different way of coming up with and presenting their stories.

Sometimes it's the story, sometimes it's the point of view (first person, third person, random), sometimes it's the amount of emotion presented to the reader (too much, too little), that turns a person off. For me, I can read a poor story written well a lot easier than a great story written poorly.

   By Memory on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 03:30 pm: Edit Post

Ahhh! I didn't realise it was just about to come out :-) :-)

Richard - I'd definitely recommend Elliott. This series has such a wide scope, and every character is intriguing.

   By Frank T Davis on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 04:46 pm: Edit Post

Hey Hunter,
Thank you very much for the update and the ref to Kate's website. I will definitely order Book 6 right away. By the time it arrives I should be finished with reading Jacqueline Cary's "Kushiel's Avatar". By the way this is part three of an eceptionally well done triology.

   By Hunter on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 05:07 pm: Edit Post

Kate Elliot's books are door stops so that'll take you a while.. :-)